southsamurai,
@southsamurai@sh.itjust.works avatar

Don’t forget us dyslexics though! Cli is rough on that, but gui tends to avoid the errors a typo can cause.

I swear, having to copy/paste stuff in terminal to avoid typing the damn commands five times is way less convenient.

I get it, Linux veterans love the terminal because it is efficient and capable. But there’s multiple reasons for a gui interface for common tasks, accessibility being the biggest.

topinambour_rex,
@topinambour_rex@lemmy.world avatar

Maybe some of those answers can help you

chitak166,

A lot of Linux users love the terminal because it’s archaic and makes them stand out from the crowd.

Every thread has people conducting autofellatio by mentioning that one time they opened the terminal in front of Windows users and got called hackers.

AffineConnection,

Ctrl+Alt+F1-F12

PINKeHamton,

CTRL+ALT+T NAH Mod+Enter is the best

uranibaba,

printscr anyone?

uis,
@uis@lemmy.world avatar

Ctrl+Alt+F1

Pantherina,

The main reason Terminals suck is the lack of any guides.

Imagine a CLI interface without commands, just selecting. That would still work everywhere and be easy to maintain, but it would be easy to use.

Or just having cheatsheets available


<span style="color:#323232;">cheat(){
</span><span style="color:#323232;">curl cheat.sh/$1
</span><span style="color:#323232;">}
</span>

That makes Terminals useful for everyone

CatLikeLemming,
@CatLikeLemming@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Cheat sheets are man pages and the -help option on most commands

Those exist already

Pantherina,

They are mostly way too big. Try to get an easy curl command from the man page

CatLikeLemming,
@CatLikeLemming@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I get that, but any extensive cheat sheet would just wrap around to being an inefficient man page

-help is the quick sheet, man is the extensive guide

Pantherina,

Cheatsheets are community maintained examples of common usage. Manpages are way too complex, help is not always available or useful but good

uranibaba,

You need something like this github.com/isacikgoz/tldr

Pantherina,

No just that small bash function

mdurell,

Terminal plus Gnu Screen plus vim makes the BEST IDE /for me/.

chitak166,

Literally the exact opposite for me, lol.

uSpetzWon,

“modern GUI”. yeah. year 2078 surely will be the year of the Linux desktop

SanndyTheManndy,

I spend more time finding the right buttons to push than creating a command to do it for me.

linearchaos,
@linearchaos@lemmy.world avatar

Yes, the answer to how do I create a new user and new groups should not be well, what distro and window manager are you using?

spikespaz,

Why not?

linearchaos,
@linearchaos@lemmy.world avatar

For the most part of the CLI methods are unified. If they’re not exactly the same they are very very close from distro to distro.

But the GUI method to add users and groups is all over the place.

I need to do a simple action in Windows, one search, The control has been there for several versions of Windows not necessarily unchanged but definitely in the same general location.

OSX same deal you need to add users groups modify network it’s all been the same place for ages.

Now someone’s trying out Linux, Where’s my network configuration, where’s my user configuration, where’s my group configuration. When the answer to that becomes well what distro, what window manager, we turn away a lot of neophites.

spikespaz,

That’s just an inherent consequence of open source, people can make multiple versions of the same thing, and you can’t force distro maintainers to ship all the same tools. It’s not worth complaining about, and beginners need this explained to them that with choice, comes… well, choice.

ME0x01,
@ME0x01@lemmy.world avatar

Super + T == fish terminal;

Super + Return == zsh terminal

chitak166,

Dang, I haven’t opened my terminal with keyboard shortcuts in years.

I just click the start menu and have a shortcut there.

karson777,

i never understood why people use different shells. i’ve tried them all but never have the need to swap back and forth especially not during the same day with the same workflow

pomodoro_longbreak,
@pomodoro_longbreak@sh.itjust.works avatar

$mod+Return crew wherr you at

ME0x01,
@ME0x01@lemmy.world avatar

We are right there with you my guy

Kamek_pf,

my boi

shalva97,

Life is too short for terminal

lugal,

Life is terminal

kool_newt,

You mean terminal is life

Yaarmehearty,

I can’t say I love the terminal, if there’s a GUI for a task I’ll use that but there comes a time in every troubleshooting session where the terminal is just the only way to do something reliably.

I’m not going to lie though, I forget commands constantly so have to search the most basic shit to type in.

chitak166,

Congratulations, you’re human.

spikespaz,

The trick is to build a massive history file and let auto complete use it for parts.

chitak166,

I think only some shells support that.

It is a nice feature, though.

PlutoParty,

Ash is the only one I’m aware of, but that’s primarily going to be found and used on stuff like routers or other embedded devices. Any modern shell can support history. That said, many users will disable it or wipe it on logout for security reasons.

chitak166,

It’s not just history support. It will provide autocomplete suggestions based on what you’ve already typed and allow you to browse the history of a specific query.

Zsh is the only shell I’ve used that supports it, using Manjaro.

My Ubuntu 22.04 server using Bash does not. It only supports the basic history that I think you are referring to where you can just browse the history of all your commands at once.

gunpachi,

I prefer Super + Return

rob_t_firefly,
@rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world avatar

I just feel like a heel using a key with a Windows logo printed on it to do anything of use in Linux.

20hzservers,

My keyboard just says Win so I feel like a winner using Linux 😅

spikespaz,

Me too. Every once in awhile I have to remind myself that it’s not my fault that Lenovo decided to plaster a windows logo on that key. Realistically, that’s everybody’s key, and it was unfair of Microsoft to do that to us in the first place

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