Unhappy with Lemmy

I'm really not happy with Lemmy so far. Its a great community and a cool concept, but the amount of bugs I am experiencing is really starting to put me off.

The site constantly updates / glitches, when I try click on something it moves just before I click so I end up clicking on something else. If I open a post, as soon as I go back the entire home feed is different and my sorting preferences have been reset.

As someone coming from the refinement from Apollo this really is offputting and makes me want to use Lemmy even less.

The people here are great, the federation is cool and I like how decentralized it is, but I think I'm going to log off now and I don't expect to be back anytime soon.

Ps. A functioning app I can download directly from the app store would be great. I'm not interested in progressive web apps or testflight betas, I want something that just works and is well refined.

Edit: I understand its early days, I'm not faulting devs for not being able to keep up, all I am doing here is expressing my opinion. I'm also sad about losing Apollo so that definitely adds to my disappointment quite a bit if I'm being honest.

loren,

If you expected someone's fledgling project that's just getting started to be as polished and refined as something that's had thousands of dev hours over the last 5-10 years then that's just bad expectations management. It will get better.

darkstar,

I understand its early days, not faulting the devs here, I'm just expressing how I feel

mars296,

You should give kbin.social a shot. It works better than lemmy currently. I made an account on lemmy.world and kbin.social and end up spending my time on kbin. Even on mobile with no app, I find the user experience better. I am sure it will get better for all instances with time.

can,

Kbin definitely has the better front page algorithms atm.

Routhinator,

Kbin is lacking the filtering for NSFW content though and there's a lot of sketch making it into the frontpage on kbin is very noticeable so for now I have an account here and on a Lemmy instance and I use Lemmy more. Kbin is for when I can be more careful with my scrolling.

speck,

Isn't there a setting in your profile to block NSFW? Or is not working fully?

Goob,

Take this with a grain of salt, but I think the issue is that some content isn't tagged as NSFW, so even if it's from an NSFW community, Kbin won't block it unless it's tagged as such.

tal,
tal avatar

isn't tagged as NSFW,

I don't think that that's it. I'm on kbin, and at least some of the images that some people were complaining about on kbin were blurred, so there must have been some sort of NSFW indication associated with them.

zalack,
zalack avatar

It works. It's just that not everyone is using the tags correctly.

1chemistdown,
1chemistdown avatar

There is a box you can check or uncheck. It comes checked by default and you have to actively undo it in order to get NSFW. You dirty dog

Dangdoggo,
Dangdoggo avatar

Yeah I definitely prefer kbin, and it has an app which is overall pretty good even on my janky ass unihertz phone.

BedSharkPal,

Wait, there's an app?

Dangdoggo,
Dangdoggo avatar

I now can't find the link but I don't think its on the play store. But yes there is an app

https://tinypic.host/i/oe6Stx

Lilkev,
Lilkev avatar

Not the original commenter, but @hariette is developing an app at the moment. There's an official kbin magazine (/m/Kmoon, or Kmoon@kbin.social)

There's also a Discord server.

WhiteOakBayou,

What app?

Lilkev,
Lilkev avatar

Not the original commenter, but @hariette is developing an app at the moment. There's an official kbin magazine (/m/Kmoon, or Kmoon@kbin.social)

There's also a Discord server.

tox_solid,
tox_solid avatar

This is also my fediverse origin story.

hakdragon,

kbin isn't bad, but it's been plagued with 500 errors - probably due to the massive influx of new users/instances.

Rajaat,
Rajaat avatar

Someone on the Discord told me KBin gained 30000 users in the last 24 hours.

tal,
tal avatar

Over the past few days, I've had waves where kbin.social gets really hammered, but then it performs fine after that. Someone suggested that it might be when users here in the US have their peak activity times, that it's getting hit much harder then.

Entropywins,
Entropywins avatar

Makes sense that kbin works better as kbin actually let me register I had trouble even trying to register on 3 different instances before someone recommended kbin because, and I quote, "it just works."

Gruqaex,

Just try kbin.social instead. I much prefer it currently vs lemmy's frontend.

Jitzilla,

I’m confused; isn’t this kbin.social?

yngpluss,
yngpluss avatar

You are probably viewing a post from itjustworks on kbin.

BBKuma,
BBKuma avatar

You're reading this on kbin.social but if you look at your address bar it'll say m/main@sh.itjust.works which means its an sh.itjust.works instance.

rouxdoo,
rouxdoo avatar

The posts show up in your feed like they're supposed to. Hover over the post's author @darkstar and you will see where he posted from.

VeeSilverball,
VeeSilverball avatar

The url from kbin is https://kbin.social/m/main@sh.itjust.works/t/37881/Unhappy-with-Lemmy

So it's federated, you just have to check the url. It's already confused me once - something kbin could improve on.

speck,

@Jitzilla Others have mentioned how to tell that this post is federated from elsewhere to kbin. The question of why you are seeing it here on kbin is another thing... I think it's because you were likely on the home page of kbin with the filter set to "all" so that you are effectively seeing a stream of content from anywhere in the fediverse — sort of like being on r/all. i.e. no one specifically reposted it here. It just, idk, had enough traffic to show up high enough for you to come across it.

Nougat,

It is for you.

You have an account at kbin.social. That's a single fediverse instance. When you log in, you see content and are able to interact with users from every fediverse instance, because they all sync with each other (so to speak, I'm sure it's more complicated than that, but that's the basic gist). There are a few exceptions, I am aware that beehaw has decided to defederate from lemmy.world and sh.it, and that kbin.social had federation turned off for a bit while ernest was dealing with server load issues. There may be other defed choices made by instances in the future, there may be other times when all federation has to be turned off temporarily on some instance or another for technical reasons, but at the moment, those are exceptions and not the rule.

JCreazy,

I'm extremely happy with Lemmy and I actually think the bugs give it charm. It make it feel more like home. No big corporations. I'm fine with limited content and problems for the time being. I'll take it over Reddit any day.

Kaldo,
Kaldo avatar

You can't really expect an amateur project led by 2 people (or 1 in case of kbin) to be comparable to a decade of reddit development. Even the Apollo app, that just built in top of other tech instead of having to reinvent the wheel, is at least 5 years old by now afaik.

If you just care about convenience then reddit is still your best bet. If you have other concerns then you need to weight which one matters more.

Difficult_Bit_1339,
@Difficult_Bit_1339@sh.itjust.works avatar

Lemmy is very new software currently only at v0.17.4

If you're here then you're getting the real Early Adopter experience. That isn't for everybody.

cfx_4188,

So they drove a bunch of people into a public beta software. Do developers need free beta testing?

novettam,

They? Spez did xD

It just happened that quite a few redditors found that the experience using Lemmy was already good enough and started suggesting it.

And here we are :shrug:

Btw considering that Lemmy is open source, yes, they do need free beta testing. They even need more contributors to handle the development and bug fixing.

spark947,

While it is okay to not be a fan of being someone's unpaid tester, you have to recognize that the developers of Lemmy are giving it away for free under the GPL, and letting people run in on their own hardware. This is extremely generous, and there is no incentive to actually use the software beyond the demand and goodwill that people have for a place to talk on the internet that isn't actively hostile towards them.

Ataraxia,
@Ataraxia@lemmy.world avatar

I guess I don't notice any of this because I'm on jerboa. Haven't had complaints with the app.

Fourth,
@Fourth@mander.xyz avatar

Jerboa has been very good for me.

HatchetHaro,
@HatchetHaro@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I'm actually having the opposite peoblem. Jerboa sometimes refuses to load communities citing java exceptions, and loading up a thread takes a long time. Browsing on PC has been fantastic, on the other hand.

intelati,

It's so close to the reddit apps It's throwing me a loop. But yeah. Other than the hot feed bug It's been 'good' for me

snakesnakewhale,

I'm sour about losing Sync, but have you tried Jerboa? It's absolutely not as feature-complete yet as any of the big 3rd party reddit clients were, but it feels totally familiar and I've been happy using it so far.

BrainisfineIthink,

I mean, you know where the door is.

Ignacio,

Jeez, i like the site but fair criticism is allowed

BrainisfineIthink,

I think I'm going to Iog off now and don't expect to be back anytime soon.

This isnt yelp. Nobody needs or wants a 4 day old account expressing all their gripes with a service that is in its infancy, or that they won't be coming back anytime soon. Cool you don't like the coffee here. Go to someone else's coffee shop, don't stand there yelling about it to all the people enjoying their coffee.

Hanabie,
@Hanabie@sh.itjust.works avatar

The man is providing feedback, that's valuable data for devs. If nobody says anything, nothing will change for the better.

BrainisfineIthink, (edited )

The same kind of valuable feedback a two year provides when he wants ice cream for dinner and doesn't want to go to bed yet.

Hanabie,
@Hanabie@sh.itjust.works avatar

Why so hostile? Can you explain exactly what makes you so angry?

BrainisfineIthink,

There's nothing hostile about saying he's welcome to stop using the product if he's unhappy with said product. You're the one taking it defensively.

L0Wigh,

I really don't think you get the point of that post. It's a feedback and he is certainly not the only one thinking that. As a Dev myself I can tell you that having this kind of people is more than helpful. They say what they think you are more aware of what the community is asking. When you are alone on a project, you most of the time miss what real issues it have

BrainisfineIthink,

This is FOSS, and the GitHub tickets are public, and can be submitted at any time. That is the single best way to provide feedback, and a dev should know that. Aside from that, there are significantly more constructive ways to provide feedback than what's provided in this entitled post. A dev in a team environment should also know that. If I submitted something like this to my IT at work I'd get ignored and/or receive an angry reply from their product manager.

I get the point of the post just fine. If you want to stay on your high horse in defense of aggressive complaints worded like bad air bnb reviews, feel free. There are a million other posts about Lemmy bugs submitted significantly more cordially and positively than this one.

Ignacio,

A coffee shop doesn't have a voting system

BrainisfineIthink,

You literally vote with your wallet.

xcxcb,

I'm mostly just getting a few bugs on sh.itjust.works and I've got no idea where to get support from here. I'm sure it'll all get sorted in time.

Jerboa for Lemmy (the app) is pretty good though mostly. It's no RedditIsFun but it's functional enough.

LostCause,

Understandable, maybe you can come back in the future when hopefully some of these bugs are ironed out and apps like Mlem are out of alpha.

nivenkos,

FWIW most of the glitches are in the official web UI, so using another UI (e.g. Jerboa on Android) fixes most of the issues.

imperator,

Yeah. I'm using the app it doesn't have that updating issue. App is missing some features that the web has so I jump back and forth.

spark431,

The real solution is for the developer of apollo to make it work as a lemmy client. You should probably let him know.

tallwookie,
@tallwookie@lemmy.world avatar

lol you should have seen what reddit was like 15 years ago.

Sexypink,

Everyone here needs to take a shower. It Smells like poop

tallwookie,
@tallwookie@lemmy.world avatar

Ma'am, this is a Wendy's.

ericjmorey,

How much are you willing to pay for this?

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