What is the cruelest "twist the knife" move or statement by a villain in a film for you?

Vespair, 2 months ago (edited 2 months ago)

You asked about film but I’m gonna answer comic books. For me, the X-Men scene where Dark Beast "cask of Amontillado"s original Beast behind the brick wall is my top answer. The comic spends time clarifying that Hank McCoy’s (Beast) nature is inquisitive, and his curiosity so great that merely not knowing an answer is harder for him than receiving a negative answer, so that the cruelty is extra-pronounced when Beast asks Dark Beast why he is doing this and Dark Beast just grins at him and says “Because” before placing the last brick. As a kid, I found that level of taunting truly to be haunting

numlok, 2 months ago

Woo-jin explaining “things” to Mr. Park in Old Boy.

entropicdrift, 2 months ago

This one. The big reveal of Old Boy is just so brutal

GoofSchmoofer, 2 months ago

When Walter White tells Jessie that he could have saved his girlfriend but instead just watched her die.

not really a villain but the elevator scene in Mad Men where Don Draper says “I don’t even think about you”

THE_ANTIHERO, 2 months ago

Could’ve walter saved her tho ? Like he had no equipment or anything and she and jesse was unconscius and she died in the span of two minutes. But yeah walter is an asshole but i slways interepted that seen as him being a real asshole and twistimg the truth slightly to hurt jesse

Squizzy, 2 months ago

Roll her over clear the airway

THE_ANTIHERO, 2 months ago

It could work but there is no promise (i am not a medic and could be wrong) .

Yggnar, 2 months ago

She choked on her own vomit because she was on her back, he could’ve just rolled her onto her side and patted her back, and her chance of survival would’ve skyrocketed lol

THE_ANTIHERO, 2 months ago

As i said i am not a medic dude but i have watched some people die and even tho people are there no one was able to help them

amio, 2 months ago

Yes, he absolutely could. She had a gag reflex and was choking, clearing her airway would likely save her, and he actively chose not to. Calling an ambulance about an opiate OD and possibly some breathing assistance would give her a good shot at survival.

THE_ANTIHERO, 2 months ago

Yea it could’ve worked i agree

342345, 2 months ago

Lucille.

Deconceptualist, 2 months ago

Not a film, but in the Foundation TV series what the emperor does at the end of season 1 is pretty damn cruel.

!He catches a conspirator and has her ‘erased’ – killing not just her family, but everyone who knows her or has been in contact with her throughout her life so there will be no memory of her existence.!<

walter_wiggles, 2 months ago

“But for me, it was Tuesday”

Empricorn, 2 months ago

By the same token, Thanos’ line of “I don’t even know who you are” to Scarlet Witch after she says he took everything from her. Certainly not true, and cruelly dismissive of her valid pain.

Also, love how she had >!an entire redemption arc in Wandavision (as much as possible, given she held an entire town hostage), but then Marvel just threw that away to make her the Big Bad in Doctor Strange’s next movie. Complete character assassination.!< But I digress…

Bread, 2 months ago

Wasn’t that alternative timeline thanos that said that though? He wouldn’t have met her yet so that version of him didn’t kill vision.

Faydaikin, 2 months ago

I do believe Thanos was being honest when he said that. It’s Past-Thanos that says that line, right? And I don’t even think Infinity War-Thanos had the slightest idea of who she was, as he likely didn’t care.

averyminya, 2 months ago

The very final scene of WandaVision has her hearing the voices of her children. I took this as a sign that things were NOT okay for her, given the events of the entire show being due to her delusions. Right after she just went through everything searching for the real ones only to realize they had been manifestations from herself, not even her real children. And at the very end of the show she was still hearing them call out to her, IMO a clear indication of what the events of MoM would lead to. Wanda was not OK.

For some of the faults of MoM, Wanda was far from it. Despite the fact that the writers of the film had not seen the show, they work together quite well. The entire point of WandaVision is that she herself is a dishonest narrator, from each episode being thematically different to the reveal that she was “the big bad” all along. To continue that makes sense to me, and I don’t think it’s character assassination but just further development. Sometimes people want to be heroes and their desires crowd that potential, it’s all too common a tale.

Now, if they bring back Wanda, that will be character assassination. Finally giving up everything and becoming the hero she wanted to be by sacrificing herself? Only to be brought back because - whoopsie I survived! (I will allow her to appear in the Agatha show, but mainline Marvel movies she should be out.

Grimy, 2 months ago

Black knight when the joker sends him to the wrong warehouse.

I vividly remember hearing gasps in the theater.

NigelFrobisher, 2 months ago

You seem to remember that Martin Lawrence film very differently from me!

Marin_Rider, 2 months ago

I alwaysbinterpreted that scene differently, that batman knew what the joker was doing and made the decision himself to save Harvey, because he thought Harvey was that important for Gotham, more so than batman personal feelings for his girlfriend