Yepthatsme,

Intolerance is a disease, gotta get rid of it somehow.

Droggelbecher,

–Sir Karl Popper

whatsarefoogee,

This is precisely the rhetoric Russia is using to justify the invasion of Ukraine.

Convincing someone that initiating violence is justified is the blunt of the work. Once you’ve done that, convincing them about the target is relatively easy. It’s much harder to convince a person to kill than to convince him whom to kill.

If Russian society wasn’t so open to initiating violence against Nazis, brainwashing them with propaganda that there are Nazis in Ukraine would not have been effective at all.

Consider this next time you advocate for “good violence”.

MemeCollector, (edited )
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Jfc, the mental gymnastics on that one deserves a gold medal, I'll give you that much.
But seriously, gtfoh comparing (and essentially blaming us for) a nazi authoritarian manipulating his population to keep them seeing him for what he is, to those of us legitimately fighting against him and those like him.
You are literally defending nazis motherfucker 😂
https://kbin.social/m/leftymemes@lemmy.dbzer0.com/t/215390/I-suppose-you-defend-the-groups-you-relate-to-the

FfaerieOxide,
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People being mislead about people being nazis doesn't make violence against nazis any less good.

You might as well say we should avoid fruit because it shares a color with Fabuloso cleaner, and drinking that would be bad.

Fruit is still simply filled with dietary fibre and vitamins.
Punching nazis still keeps society safe.

captainlezbian,

That more or less sums up anti fascism.

I want peace, I need liberty and equality. Peace is something nice we can have when liberty and equality are safe

Melkath,

Intolerance of intolerance is a double negative. It equates to tolerance. It is the morally correct response.

Tolerance of intolerance is not a double negative. It equates to intolerance. It is the morally incorrect response.

The fact that there is ANY narrative out there where being against fascism is the morally wrong thing just proves that we have an out of control fascism issue.

Dadifer,
Eisenhowever,

Dumbass take, violence begets violence.

Making them scared of getting hit will give them more reason to be more violent than they already are.

Racism is often faced with violence, people think that shit went away?

MemeCollector,
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Lmfao, yes, nazis are violent and they beget violence.
Gtfoh with this both sides bullshit.
https://kbin.social/m/my_mouldy_memes/t/277597/Every-Fucking-Time

gornar,
@gornar@lemmy.world avatar

Tolerance more frequently begets violence: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance

magnetosphere,
magnetosphere avatar

Your link provides more information, but this version is good, too:

The Paradox of Tolerance

gornar,
@gornar@lemmy.world avatar

Brilliant, thanks!

Melkath,

4 people sit down for lunch with a nazi.

5 nazis stand up.

FfaerieOxide,
FfaerieOxide avatar

Nazism is inherently an act of violence itself.

Being a nazi is an active attempt to organize genocide.

Responding to this violent threat to society with violence is morally justifiable self-defense, advisable, and really really funny.

Contrarily carrying water for nazis—as you are doing—is the opposite of good, and only provides cover for people who are trying to kill some very dear friends of mine.

Don't make that easier for them to do.

3L54,

As an important note. The last part applies to all groups. Thats why diversity is very important!

MemeCollector,
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In society at large, sure, but as long as there are marginalised people they, we, should be allowed spaces just for ourselves away from those who oppress us (even if not directly/intentionally, being part of an oppressive group means benefiting from it).

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