wick,

Wow that’s unbelievable. As in I literally don’t believe it. So I tested it by posting various sentences containing these words and other known slurs to compare, and found it didn’t work.

Maybe this is some American thing I’m not Free enough to experience in my corner of the world, or it doesn’t do this on android or the browser site. (The tech crunch screenshot looks like something else, probably iOS)

It hard to say because no one is even a little bit curious enough to test it. Idk how this thread contains anything else but people testing it, because it’s so damn unbelievable. Why is no one testing this themselves? Why are you not testing it yourself?

Anise,

I thought he was a “free speech absolutist”

Silentiea,
@Silentiea@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

For me but not for thee

JohnScig,

I do not understand why people still use Twitter…

13esq,

I know right? People need to grow a back bone, I’m sure twitter used to be great, but if it’s not for you anymore then move on and don’t look back, there’s plenty of other ways to spend your time.

frostwhitewolf,

I don’t understand why anyone used twitter in the first place

rsuri,

All speech is free, but some speech is more free than others

root_beer,

This isn’t even new, the Boer cried about it already like months ago

Aux,

Good!

todd_bonzalez,

Cisgender

Lets_Eat_Grandma,

So come up with a new word? All the screaming in the world won’t get musky to change something like this. He’s chosen his side.

funkless_eck,

entogenos would be the Greek version of the same words of Latin origin.

todd_bonzalez,

So Musk will let you use that word all you want because free speech, right?

…right?

StaySquared, (edited )

The way the users of that slur is used… yeah it does come off as a slur. As if, “cis-gender” (lol) is a degrading label. You can call me a cis-gender… you might get a laugh out of me but that’s about it.

supersquirrel,

It is a joke of a slur

You can call me a cis-gender… you might get a laugh out of me but that’s about it.

Because nobody has seriously threatened your life for being cisgender, nobody has harassed you in a coordinated fashion because you are cisgender, cisgender is just a term that can be applied to you that doesn’t really affect you either way.

Words that are slurs are the record of violence and suffering inscribed into letters, you can’t treat those words the same and the fact that Musk is doing this is pathetic as fuck.

TubularTittyFrog, (edited )

plenty of people get harassed, abused, and threatened for being cisgendered. you’re a nut if you think being trans has some sort exclusivity on gender violence. both cis men and women have been threatened and labeled as threats due to their gendered conformity. being in a minority doesn’t mean you get a monopoly on being treated like shit.

and when you hang out around trans communities, they very much do actively use the term as a slur, even against each other.

supersquirrel,

being in a minority doesn’t mean you get a monopoly on being treated like shit.

True but being in a significant majority however does mean you get a monopoly on being able to wield actual societal and structural power (whether it be through family relationships, social relationships, the workplace, healthcare services and any number of other contexts) to hurt groups of people. Being part of the majority, at any point you can divest from the social contract and just look over at somebody who is almost exactly the same as you and say “well, we know which side we are on wink”. Having agency over when you and your group honors the social contract and basic rules of communities (i.e. you don’t show up to peaceful protests to beat the shit out of peaceful protestors, run them over or shoot them with an assault rifle) means that any point violence can be deemed acceptable by your group for a unilateral aim that ignores the rest of society. This Happens All Of The Damn Time. Cops do this with rightwing bigot constantly, shitty people of all types do this.

Aux, (edited )

You can’t be more wrong. A typical bigot.

A_Random_Idiot, (edited )

You dont have to sign your posts you know

Aux,

A typical bigot indeed.

supersquirrel, (edited )

I mean the rest of us don’t mind, it’s like game of thrones it’s so hard to keep track of all the characters so when people just put it out there and literally sign their posts, I mean shrug fair.

Hate is a bad flavor of ice cream but like, yeah by all means if people want to tear their mask off, throw the dog whistle away, please it helps the rest of us realize who the hateful clowns are with dysfunctional capacities to apply empathy or even basic humanity to entire categories of people. Honestly it makes these conversations soooooo much easier and faster when the hateful authoritarian people just actually self label themselves as such.

To all the cisgender sad lonely people out there who would never hurt a soul, transgender or otherwise, I see you and I love you but shut the fuck up you aren’t being hunted down by threatening white men in pickup trucks who are drunk and are all friends with the sheriff so if they get violent with you for being a queer I mean the sheriff is gonna understand the boys getting rowdy right? So what they tied you up and raped you and drove away leaving your body as a crime scene.

That is the difference. Y’all are talking about feelings, queer people are talking about their fucking lives and we better damn well listen because we are next into the meat grinder.

HexesofVexes,

Why would he hate the word “onthesameside-gender”?

pastabatman,

I honestly never even considered that it was a slur. Sometimes you are having a discussion where gender identity is relevant, and in that situation it is useful to be able to clearly indicate that someone is cisgender.

See I just used it.

mightyfoolish,

The word was created so the official opposite of transgender is not simply the word “normal”. Treating cisgender as a slur is just attacking transgender people.

Beetlejuice001,

I agree completely. The whole manufactured discussion about it it ridiculous. Conservative love to be able to point at social values and try to claim there is simply an opposite alternative fact that’s completely contradictory to it on the conservative spectrum. Did you notice when they normalized leftist?

HauntedCupcake, (edited )

I don’t think classifying cisgender as a slur is defendable, especially on its own.

Not saying it is a slur, but I’ve seen it used like a slur before, mostly coupled with “white” and “men”/“women”. But I’m fairly sure Elon himself is against censoring language for that reason (when it comes to things that don’t personally offend him). It just seems dumb and hypocritical to me

TubularTittyFrog, (edited )

if used descriptively it’s not a slur.

if used to harass, intimidate, and demean, it’s a slur.

Liz,

Further example:

He’s a Jew.

vs

He’s a Jew.

xmunk,

When I first heard it, I assumed it was a slur because the closest common use English word is cissy.

But then I like… looked it up.

Basically, I can understand how some folks initially think it’s a slur, but this conservative overreaction is clearly in bad faith and it’d almost certainly happen whatever the fuck the word was.

Blahaj_Blast,
@Blahaj_Blast@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Something something snowflakes…

11111one11111,

Should we really be adding more derogatory terms to children’s vocabulary tho? I don’t care if it’s cisgender or a new word for removed, I get theyre only words and we shouldnt be voldermorting words because of the power it gives to oppressors but for fuckin real what I get nervous about is adding another word to be fucking mean adding it to school aged children’s arsenal of mean as fuck shit to say to other kids. We can all agree they don’t belong anywhere appropriately but for me this has always been about discouraging the next generation from being as hateful and cruel as this current parenting generation and older.

I will die on the hill that psychological and emotional aggression is 1000x’s worse than trying to knock someones teeth in. As someone who grew up a barefoot3d hippie in redneck country I’ve seen it way too often that issues get fuckin squashed after 2 parties are icing their shinners and are arguing wile coming down from a much depleted sense of drive, rage amd adrenaline or whatever that hormone is called now.

Cybermonk_Taiji,

WON’T SOMEONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!

xmunk,

Whenever I speak the Italian vulgar, I’m always talking to my homies in Cisapline Gaul.

TangledHyphae, (edited )

Your position is great, all these kids are being warped by slander and pejoratives (as contextual), and nobody seems to care about manipulating all these new kids being grown up into a world that’s burning down and their McDonald’s meal will cost $26.99 next year with no jobs existing. But they’re concerned more about gender and words and feelings than reality anymore.

IzzyScissor,

Getting into fistfights > Learning a single vocabulary word ??

Wow. A VIOLENT snowflake. Daring today, aren’t we.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

“Cisgender” is no more a derogatory term than “heterosexual.” It’s simply a descriptor. It means your gender and biological sex are the same. That’s all.

It’s only derogatory to you if you feel that “cisgender” should be “normal” and thus not have a word. But we have a word for all kinds of things people might consider “normal.” Sighted is a word even though being able to see is the norm. I’m sure you can use ‘sighted’ in a derogatory way. Maybe some blind people even do, I don’t know. That doesn’t make the word derogatory.

“Cisgender” is not the queer equivalent of something like “tranny.”

andros_rex,

Has anyone ever been fired from a job for being cis? [I’ve been fired from a couple for being trans….]

LiveLM,

Sorry to hear about that, hope you’ve found a nice employer that respects you!

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I know that is legal in a lot of places, but it absofuckinglutely should not be. I’m really sorry. I hope you’ve found something good since.

TubularTittyFrog, (edited )

no, but i have seen people asked to give up their position so a ‘more worthy’ trans person could take their place… mostly for the ‘optics’ of being ‘diverse’. most often old white men, because they are ‘bad’ and trans people are ‘good’.

a lot in community groups in social/leftist leanings. the obsession with trans tokenism about rich white liberals is def a thing, esp when you can request a old white man and replace them with a young trans person so that your org/group is ‘with it’. i’ve seen this happen multiple times.

and in a few instance sadly, the person who replaced was great and knowledgeable, and the trans person who replaced them was an unhinged jerk who ended up quitting or being asked to leave after introducing an inordinate amount of drama into the group.

andros_rex,

Where I live, I can be legally denied a job, housing, or medical care. If the cops wanted to, they’ve retroactively invalidated changed drivers licenses, so they could probably just arrest me for driving. I couldn’t access any form of domestic violence resource when escaping my marriage.

Some trans people are crazy assholes - just as some cis people are crazy assholes. But there is no system level oppression of cis people. Drama is annoying, but drama doesn’t mean you don’t get to eat.

exanime,

Tired of hearing about Xhitter… Stop posting every excruciating minutiae about it and let it die already

mightyfoolish,

I agree with you but we both know it’s not going to stop. We need a mostodon instance to get world famous.

PiratePanPan,
@PiratePanPan@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I’ve heard that straggot isn’t, so take that information as you will /s

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