Armen12,

Good Job Chicago, hope this spread to my state too. Every Democrat supports Palestine, Republicans are the ones who would sacrifice their first born to defend Israel

helenslunch,

Amazing how easy it is to ask people to stop fighting when you’re no the one who is having your family and friends slaughtered en masse.

roastedDeflator,
roastedDeflator avatar

Like Jewish Voice for Peace do? Ask for a ceasefire I mean. Or as they say:

URGENT: Demand a ceasefire now.
Millions of lives depend on it.

Also, hope you don't mind when they say:

WE HAVE A PLAN TO END U.S. SUPPORT
FOR ISRAEL’S OPPRESSION OF PALESTINIANS

Jewish Voice for Peace is the largest progressive Jewish anti-Zionist organization in the world.

We’re organizing a grassroots, multiracial, cross-class, intergenerational movement of U.S. Jews into solidarity with Palestinian freedom struggle.

If you’ve been looking for a political home for Jews on the left in this perilous moment; if you’ve been wanting a Jewish community with justice at the center; if you’ve been looking to turn your rage and grief into meaningful, strategic action:
Join us. You belong here.

helenslunch,

No, I mean like the city of Chicago. You know, the people this article is about?

roastedDeflator,
roastedDeflator avatar

My point was that people who have family and friends in Israel demand a ceasefire, and want us to Tell Congress: Demand Biden reinstate UNRWA funding, and have practical suggestions on how to act now ect

So having Chicago -amongst other cities- stand with them for peace, I think it's great move.

helenslunch,

It’s just dumb. It’s like watching a street fight and standing there and yelling “STAHHHHP!” It doesn’t do anything. Of course everyone wants peace.

deft,

No it isn’t lmfao

Send your analogy back to Amazon it’s broken

helenslunch, (edited )

yes it is ROFLCOPTER

PotatoKat,

Old, out of touch, and advocating for Isreal. Color me the least surprising color in existence

helenslunch,

LOL is that the best lie you could make up?

PotatoKat,

Roflcopter was all I needed to read to know

helenslunch,

Yes because only old, pro-Iraelis know that one, right? And only sensible people use “lmfao”?

Randomgal,

Your only making it worse, boomer.

helenslunch,

I’m 27, dumbass

DoomBot5,

Plenty of us with friends, family, and citizenship in Israel want a real solution, not just another ceasfire that will be broken by Hamas with a large missles barrage on said friends and family.

I see all of these calls for ceasefire, but they always end there. No actual suggestions for a long term solution.

Keeponstalin,

A ceasefire is only the first step to a solution

zerog_bandit,

I hear a lot of complaining and have heard nothing about solutions that will get hostages released and security guarantees for Israel.

wahming,

Could we get some guarantees for the Palestinians too? That the Israelis won’t use as toilet paper in a week?

merc,

Why are city governments doing this?

Cities have very little role in international diplomacy. If a city wants to support something like Black Lives Matter, at least that’s something related to what they do. They employ police who might not treat black people fairly, for example. But, it seems wrong to get involved in international diplomacy.

For a different reason, schools also shouldn’t have a stance. Schools are supposed to be a “marketplace of ideas”. If a student council wants to take a stand, sure. If a Palestinian rights org on campus wants to hold a rally, that’s great. The school itself should stay out of it and simply provide a physically safe place for other people to express their ideas.

queermunist,
@queermunist@lemmy.ml avatar

What if your city manufactures weapons for Israel?

What if your school invests in Israel?

merc,

Cities don’t manufacture weapons.

Schools shouldn’t be investing.

queermunist,
@queermunist@lemmy.ml avatar

Cities grant building and zoning permits, sign contracts with private companies, and make property sales. They have a lot of influence on what kinds of businesses are allowed in.

Or, again, it can be regulated by the city council.

And schools shouldn’t invest, but they do, so therefore they have to be struggled against

merc,

Cities grant building and zoning permits

And if the city’s serious about an issue, they should use those tools. Not make a bland statement about calling for a cease-fire. Actually punish companies selling weapons. But, that’s an actual step, calling for a cease-fire is more a “thoughts and prayers” approach that just wastes everyone’s time.

As for universities, same thing. If they’re going to invest in things, then instead of making statements about Gaza or whatever, they should actively sell off investments. But, really, a university should be a stage people use to share their ideas. The stage shouldn’t be only open to the currently fashionable points of view.

queermunist,
@queermunist@lemmy.ml avatar

Yeah, it’s definitely not enough.

And universities are more likely to forbid Palestinian speakers 🙄

lone_faerie,

Why shouldn’t they? The city government represents the citizens of that city, who are calling for a ceasefire. They’re saying “we hear you and agree there should be a ceasefire”

merc,

Why shouldn’t they? They have no power to do anything, and it isn’t their business. Any time they spend on posturing about things they can’t have any impact on is time they can’t spend doing their actual jobs.

RagingRobot,

These city council meetings keep getting over run with citizens making statements about the situation and that is actually preventing them from doing other things. That’s why they passed this. So that the citizens will feel appeased and let them move on to their real business. It’s the citizens who are wasting the time in this case and if that’s their prerogative then so be it.

philo,
@philo@discuss.online avatar

What exactly are they going to do to bring about this cease-fire? Hold their collective breath until it happens?

trackcharlie,

So, are we the world police or not? I’m getting mixed signals here.

Do you want us involved in middle eastern conflicts or do you want us to stfu and stay out of it?

There’s no world where our demands are accepted at their word.

paholg,

Are you not aware that we have been heavily involved with this conflict for a very long time?

trackcharlie,

There’s no world where our demands are accepted at their word.

ChemicalPilgrim,

As if there are no options between ground invasion and sitting silently.

trackcharlie,

Really? Name some.

If you reply ‘economic sanctions’ as if that has ever functioned at all in the way anyone actually intended for their use, you vastly require educating in this topic.

ChemicalPilgrim,

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  • trackcharlie, (edited )

    I’ll take your complete avoidance of the question as a tacit understanding that you actually have no idea what you’re talking about but are pretending to take a moral highground where there is none to make yourself feel better about your lack of education.

    Thanks for playing and enjoy the block fam; I’ve no interest in continuing discourse with someone as intellectually dishonest, or disabled, as yourself.

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