Grass,

I attempted to skim through but it’s a lot of fluf with the odd unfamiliar acronym. Kiteworks seems to take pride in their data security but I don’t know what they actually do. So maybe a good thing or maybe they are just trying to frame it as such? People need to stop writing articles and blog posts like they need to meet a minimum word count and meet some weird classroom criteria that doesn’t actually benefit the writing.

BrownianMotion,
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I agree that many of these articles leave a lot to be desired.

The key points are that Kiteworks (formally Accellion, Inc) is an American corporation. They are not into doing things for free, they charge like a wounded bull.

DRACOON (also security conscious enterprise file exchange) and ownCloud mergers into Kiteworks. So what will happen in the future? Well immediately nothing, they will probably continue a ‘community’ version.

I would think that things like MS integration might become paid only (if its not already) because companies need to make more money. Who knows, they might scrap it as open source too. ownCloud is now at the mercy of a corporate business.

The optimist in me wants to believe ownCloud might get a boost in resources and become more secure as a result of its new management, but my optimism is always reminded of every other time open source has been taken over (eg: pfSense).

The only other thing is DACH market, which is basically the German speaking market. Germany, Austria and Switzerland. Its no surprise they are targeting that area really.

Grass,

Thanks. I have been vaguely looking into what is up with owncloud after seeing the odd post here and there about people moving to it from nextcloud. I have been so far leaning towards replacing my nextcloud instance in the basement with something less complicated than either of them as I rarely use most of the features.

BrownianMotion,
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tbh nextcloud barebones is great. I don’t use it for a full system (as in cloud).

I use it for notes (Joplin is the app on all devices/pc) NC is just its storage/distribution location. Same thing goes with bookmarks (Floccus is the addon, available to all devices/browsers). This is what makes it great.

Next is that I have files / pics on NAS storage, but I can make “external shares” available via NC. So NC is still tiny, but I can see everything I want on my massive NAS.

Using NC properly can be a super useful tool. But there are things to avoid, unless you have huge processor and storage. For example sharing photos. There are much better options than NC offering (Librephotos).

I use LLLM on NC, (because I can) and its pretty good. more than enough for Q&A. It wouldn’t beat GPT3.5 but its on par. However you suddenly need 8+GB ram and 4-8 threads to be “responsive” to one user. Fun though!

I do have docserver, fulltextsearch apps and then onlyoffice installed (as a separate VM) so I can actually edit office documents on the fly and its nice, but again I have offloaded it to another VM. so NC stays small and only has the “connector” to the onlyoffice VM.

Its worth it to me for cross platform and pc/compute devices for the bookmarks and notes alone! everything else is just sugar on top!

Grass,

I’ll have to look into some of those, many I haven’t heard of. Currently my only other self host things are a currently broken jelly/arr setup for my jailbroken tv, a bunch of 3d printing related stuff, and home assistant for my garage, bathroom fan auto on humidity, and bird room light and curtain wake up and sleep time automation, but it’s the haos method and it’s out of date and need a lot of manual intervention and I’m looking into using the container option instead.

It’s tough balancing work with home server management, and also needing time to repair my bikes so I can stop borrowing a car, and cooking and cleaning… Sometimes I just want things to be done for me but I know I would end up wanting to redo everything to be more in line with my preferences.

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