leaf,

Sorry to stomp on the hate parade, but a ublock origin dev says this a adblock bug. Just use ublock origin.

twitter.com/gorhill/status/1746263759495077919

A_Very_Big_Fan,

Idk, I don’t use ublock but ever since this last wave of allegations of throttling adblock users I’ve been getting videos just refusing to load any of the beginning of the vid after the first couple seconds. It’ll play the last 3/4ths though.

I don’t remember the exact name of my adblock but it’s not ublock origin

Zuberi,
@Zuberi@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Not true. The implicit wait of 5000 milliseconds is hard-coded to non-chrome browsers.

Grain9325,

That’s a separate issue. The bugs on AdBlock And AdBlock Plus extensions affect not only YouTube but other websites as well (as said by uBO dev). This isn’t on google but the extensions themselves.

Zuberi,
@Zuberi@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Source?

I have post history of going through their JS, this is a Google-sucks thing, full stop.

Grain9325,

uBO Dev already shared it in the twitter thread but here you go

gitlab.com/adblockinc/ext/adblockplus/…/1576#note…

DivisionResult,

and brave if you are not interrsted toó much on workarrounds?

Zuberi,
@Zuberi@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Any non-chrome browser will experience a 5 second delay (IF they have an adblocker)

be_excellent_to_each_other,
be_excellent_to_each_other avatar

FWIW, with Firefox on Linux with pihole on my network and ublock origin, some component (or the mix) of those things seems to have meant that so far I have yet to experience a single one of the things Google has been doing since the adblock wars began again. I just checked now to see if there was any delay, and there is not.

I haven't seen a single popup, nor a single warning, no slowdowns, and no ads. I installed freetube in preparation for getting screwed, and although I like it, ad-wise and speed-wise it's no different than hitting youtube directly.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Zuberi,
@Zuberi@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

“Checked to see if there was any delay” is not entirely a good argument when I have post history of going through the JS.

That 5000ms wait is still in there; if I had to guess, your Pihole is preventing any real issue there.

be_excellent_to_each_other,
be_excellent_to_each_other avatar

OK. I'm not claiming google isn't trying. I'm claiming it doesn't matter, and this is a solvable problem for end users. Most others in this thread are saying just FF and ublock does it, so I probably have overkill going on.

I only know this is happening with Youtube recently because of seeing other people talk about it.

LinkOpensChest_wav,
@LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Same here. uBO + Firefox

If there’s been a delay, it’s not been noticeable to me

DivisionResult,

But brave is based con Chrome.V8

sabreW4K3,
@sabreW4K3@lemmy.tf avatar

People should use Firefox and uBlock Origin

LinkOpensChest_wav,
@LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I always assume that people in a community like this are using them, but clearly such is not the case

Adubya,
@Adubya@lemmy.world avatar

Working at a college its always shocking finding out a lot of the youth don’t know ad blocking at least. Volunteering after my shift to help with tutoring or other help they will try to show me a youtube video even on their personal laptop. Every start of a semester its something that leaves me shaking my head.

LinkOpensChest_wav,
@LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I don’t really like the term “echo chamber,” but that sort of thing makes me realize I’m really in one. Nearly everyone I interact with online just takes things like adblocking and basic internet hygiene for granted, but every so often I encounter someone who reminds me that there are a lot of people who don’t know the first thing about such things.

I remember one time this kid asked me, “What’s Chromium? I have this app called ‘Chromium’ but I don’t know what it’s for,” so I went into a lengthy explanation about how it’s an internet browser, and how Chrome is based on Chromium but that Chromium without Google exists, whereupon they showed me their laptop, and it was severely infected with some obvious malware that put a search bar on their desktop titled “Chromium.”

sabreW4K3,
@sabreW4K3@lemmy.tf avatar

So often I see people asking questions and I know that if they were using Firefox and uBlock, they wouldn’t have the problems they’re having

LinkOpensChest_wav,
@LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I feel the same.

Amputret,
@Amputret@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Sadly it doesn’t work for me anymore (and yes I have followed uBlock’s instructions).

sabreW4K3,
@sabreW4K3@lemmy.tf avatar

What exactly doesn’t work?

Amputret,
@Amputret@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Using Firefox and uBlock Origin, and following uBlock’s instructions re: resetting and updating. Getting timeouts and popups from YT regardless.

peg,

Make sure you’re not using other ad blockers/privacy tools in addition to uBlock Origin.

sabreW4K3,
@sabreW4K3@lemmy.tf avatar

Hmmm, I’m not seeing these problems at all. It’s probably worth reporting

Adubya,
@Adubya@lemmy.world avatar

I’m sorry to hear that because I had similar problem but clearing cookies & cached web content option ended up working for me. Hope you find something that work because it was awful to experience ads after so long. I track stuff I subscribe to with TubeSync but still like to search for new topics & the ads were annoying.

barrbaric,

I use UBO and have definitely noticed videos stuttering in the last week or two.

Flynn_Mandrake,

YouTube is already a sedated, anaemic whale of a website. Adblock probably makes it run faster, given it usually removes stuff rather than add it. If you want speed, I recommend a frontend such as Invidious or Piped, it’s what I use on my weaker laptops where YouTube takes half a minute to load.

amanneedsamaid,

Agreed, Invidious is so much lighter than YouTube that I’ve had sucess watching on onion instances via Tor.

techgearwhips,

Invidious has a bug where it doesn’t update as frequently as it’s supposed to. I’ve had this issue on both my self hosted and public instances. I’m thinking about switching to freetube. Always hear about it but never tried it

Sabata11792,
Sabata11792 avatar

I set my user agent to a google bot. Everything works other than steam chat.

Anticorp,

Yes, use Newpipe

Z3k3,

Isn’t it fun going down this road rather than fixing the need for ad blockers. (The ones beyond I’m just not interested)

The fbi recommends using adblockers which is amusing to me as Google is headquartered under their jurisdiction.

Drive by scams malicious scripts and straight up videos that google themselves would kill the account of a creator for.

And on top of that there’s only so many times in an hour I can watch an ad for raid shadow wallet in an hour before I need a suicide hotline

Aleric,

You’re going to get suicide booth ads if you don’t watch out.

BlackSkinnedJew,

NewPipe x SponsorBlock

brax,

Or Revanced - Sponsorblock is one of the packages you can patch into it.

SpiceDealer,
@SpiceDealer@lemmy.world avatar

I’m glad that last week I decided to ditch Youtube proper and use the Invidious frontend instead.

wookiepedia,

I <3 invidious. Was traveling recently and didn’t have access to my home invidious instance and WOW, yt sucks without it.

OminousOrange,
@OminousOrange@lemmy.ca avatar

I use Twingate to access my home network externally. NetworkChuck has a good video on how it works and how to set up.

techgearwhips,

I use tailscale. Too easy to setup

jeanofthedead,
jeanofthedead avatar

I use Baking Soda and Vinegar to convert all videos in Safari (macOS and iOS) to the native video player. Automatically selects the highest quality video available and skips ads.

emly_sh_,

I stopped watching videos on YouTube and instead started to use mpv since it allows me to watch the video at a higher resolution without burning my PC

dangblingus,

Even if they throttled my speed so that I’m wasting the same amount of time waiting for the site to load as i would be by watching an ad, I still win because I didn’t have to watch an ad.

Lightrider,

Fuckingcapitalists

Lord_ToRA,
@Lord_ToRA@lemmy.world avatar

The word is “advertisement” which has only one “d”, so the shortened form of it is "ad’ or “ads”.

VonReposti,

But it is “added” to the video! /s

Mercury1337,
@Mercury1337@lemmy.world avatar

youtube-dlp is your friend then - github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp

far_university1990,

Also mpv, it can use yt-dlp as a backend to play videos from urls: github.com/mpv-player/mpv

Goldmage263,
@Goldmage263@sh.itjust.works avatar

If you’re experiencing this issue, unfortunately, you only have two options: Either disable your ad blocker or pay for a YouTube premium subscription

Oh wow, they managed to not say the quiet part out loud.

FeelzGoodMan420,

Unpopular opinion but…who fucking cares? Youtube with ublock origin takes like 3 extra fucking seconds to load. 3 second delay is still worlds better than a 30+ second unskippable add. It’s not a big deal…

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