eya,
@eya@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar
oeverbloem,

It’s the primaries, not the presidential election?

desmosthenes,
@desmosthenes@lemmy.world avatar

its congress with the power of the purse not the president

phreekno, (edited )
@phreekno@lemmy.world avatar

hm as if he can’t veto but ok,sure, go off

desmosthenes,
@desmosthenes@lemmy.world avatar
archomrade,

Right, because his objection was the funding for Isreal, not the lack of funding for Ukraine

desmosthenes,
@desmosthenes@lemmy.world avatar

again congress is the one not approving the funding; particularly republicans in the house. they’re playing politics with H.R. 7217 instead of passing the senate’s already bipartisan passed legislation. now we’re sitting here talking about the border 40-50 years in with no congressional action

archomrade,

What’s the point of this line of thinking? Biden is culpable in multiple ways for approving funding for genocide, even if congress is the one proposing it. He’s the head of the democratic party, he has veto power, he has an extensive cabinet and can whip votes against funding if he chose to.

It’s crazy to me that anyone’s deflection of Biden’s role in supporting Israel is “well congress is the one DRAFTING the bills he’s signing”

desmosthenes, (edited )
@desmosthenes@lemmy.world avatar

I suppose I just see him getting ragged on when is isn’t the source of that problem and if anything is being held hostage by parliamentary processes over a slim majority in the house

the law has to reach him first to sign…

again congress controls the purse they just don’t like to look like it; this issue arises due to their inaction and shifting blame to a 200 year old issue of immigration

archomrade,

He’s getting ragged on because he has the power to direct foreign policy and he chooses not to in this major instance.

the law has to reach him first to sign…

and he can say he’s going to veto anything that provides unconditional defense aid to Israel, and then veto it if it does come across his desk. That he chooses not to push for that condition is 100% his own fault.

phreekno,
@phreekno@lemmy.world avatar

Yea my point is that he can veto it. Looks like he was threatening to veto simply because it didn’t have aid for ukraine. Not because it had money for israel

Leate_Wonceslace,

As far as protests go, it was remarkably effective. If you had asked me ahead of time it would’ve worked my answer would have been “No.”

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