Google Photos/Gmail AI data removal

Hello, with the new AI features being added into Googles services I was thinking of maybe starting a thread about how to remove data from the affected services. I feel like simply deleting my photos from Google Photos most likely wouldn’t be enough of a measure to ensure my images does not get affected or used in these AI features.

Is there any way to ensure that Google properly removes your data after deleting it?

Sources: www.youtube.com/watch?v=iinwIYt1IzMtechradar.com/…/google-io-showcases-new-ask-photo…arstechnica.com/…/gmails-ai-powered-email-summari…

AcidLeaves,

Afaik in the app there isn’t. I think the actual photo data bytes do get deleted but some other crap generated from the ML models ran on them stay. Databases are also constantly replicated and snapshotted multiple times for all Google services and I have no idea how long those last either

Scolding0513,

I’m gonna keep it real with you brother. You’re never getting it truly deleted. Or at least, not likely. Big tech has shown that they HATE permanently deleting data, and will do everything in their power to not do so.

CosmicTurtle0,

Idk…the recent Google cloud account deletion was pretty permanent. The company was lucky enough to have a backup on another cloud, which is why they aren’t SOL right now.

Scolding0513,

even if you’re data is actually deleted, you can sure it’s been processed by AI already. thinking otherwise is a pure fantasy. Google does not simply give up data. just just dont. live in your fantasy all u like though

helenslunch,

The company was lucky enough to have a backup on another cloud

You just contradicted yourself in the next sentence…

qjkxbmwvz,

No, it was the client — not Google — who had a backup with another provider.

qjkxbmwvz,

You may want to check local regulations — if there’s a legal requirement to delete the data, I’d try to take advantage of that.

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AcidLeaves,

if there’s a legal requirement to delete the data, I’d try to take advantage of that

There’s like no countries with strong enough data laws that would guarantee full deletion

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