SapientLasagna,

It’s interesting to compare Vollmer’s ideas with those of the father of modern policing in the UK and British Commonweath, Robert Peel.

platysalty,

Well, someone's gonna be a bit disappointed

blazera,
blazera avatar

have...have you ever read a modern police headline?

FartsWithAnAccent,
@FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world avatar

“Hey, let’s not be dicks.”

[screeching noises]

ptz,
@ptz@dubvee.org avatar

the “father of modern policing.” He opposed enforcing traffic and vice laws. He also encouraged discretion, leniency, and diversity in order to foster public support

So, did all subsequent generations decide to rebel against their father’s wishes? Because none of that seems to be the case for modern policing. Today, it’s basically “comply or die”

bhmnscmm,
@bhmnscmm@lemmy.world avatar

It kind of seems that way. The 99PI episode touches on that a bit.

A lot of the authority police have today is a result of prohibition and a reinterpretation of the 4th amendment. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carroll_v._United_States

ptz,
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It may have started with Prohibition and Carroll v US, but don’t forget the War on Drugs^TM^ hasn’t helped either. Add in systemic racism, qualified immunity, police unions, corruption, and insufficient training/requirements (compared to what’s required to be a police officer in other countries), and you’ve got a recipe for…well [gestures vaguely in all directions]

TrenchcoatFullofBats,

Don’t forget all of the military equipment they get for free. Because every sleepy 4 intersection town needs a Bearcat/MRAP.

ptz,
@ptz@dubvee.org avatar

Most definitely. Completely forgot about the over-militarization of local and state police forces being yet another step in the road to what we have today.

SantaClaus,

I really like how you wrote this, I really don’t like that it’s true

ptz,
@ptz@dubvee.org avatar

Same.

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