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hydroel, in TIL that America is one of the few cultures with insults for smart people

The article is written on the assumption that Google Translate is as good a reference as any when it comes to insults - which is very bold. Western culture is not so disparate and there are words for “geek” in French, mainly “intello” and which infact short for “intellectual”.

“Geek” was not translated, not because it has no translation, but because it is now commonly used in the French language, and I’d bet the reason is similar for other languages.

Anyway, well written article but based on a stupid assumption.

BananaTrifleViolin,

Yeah, I agree this is all based on a false premise. I also agree it's well written but a turd sculpted into the shape of a rose is still just a turd.

It's a specious article and that's a dangerous thing in a world where false information spreads so fast.

aninnymoose, in TIL that in 2001, the crown prince of Nepal killed the king of and nine others in the royal family, himself included. His motives are unknown which has led to much speculation and conspiracy theories.

The crown prince thing is the official story but the more you look into it, the harder it gets to believe said story, hence the conspiracy theories. One of the rare cases where conspiracy theories may not be outlandish.

Senseibu, in TIL: a 28-year-old woman went 45 days without pooping in 2013
@Senseibu@feddit.uk avatar

Hope she had a poop knife

v13,
v13 avatar

I'm glad to see the poop knife reference here!

Doctor8,

You can take a man out of reddit, but you can’t take the reddit out of a man.

ShustOne, in TIL about the existence of Wikipedia's Nearby page, a list of pages tagged with coordinates nearby where you are

This is such a fun feature, thank you for sharing!

Kraven_the_Hunter, in TIL that the world's largest pyramid by volume is not in Egypt, but in Mexico. The Great Pyramid of Cholula has twice the volume. It is 450 m long, but only 66 m tall.

All hail the great and spicy Cholula - giver of chiles and maker of sauces!

elbarto777,

Ramen!

MaxVoltage,
@MaxVoltage@lemmy.world avatar

our culture is so much greater as americans

Wahots, in TIL that in order to avoid having to surrender to the Soviets, the German commander of Bornholm tried to get a single British soldier transferred to the island to surrender to
@Wahots@pawb.social avatar

You know things are bad when the leader of 12,000 men tried to get one guy in order to surrender to him. Based on Bucha, I understand why they didn’t want to surrender to the Russians.

Hubi,

There was also the whole getting sent to “work camps” thing…

FarraigePlaisteach,
FarraigePlaisteach avatar

The British ran concentration camps too.

Holyginz,

Your point is? We aren’t talking about the British. Everyone knows they’ve done horrible things. But it doesn’t give a pass for others.

FarraigePlaisteach,
FarraigePlaisteach avatar

Torture camps are awful no matter who is doing it, yes. You are incorrect in inferring that I’m defending either party there.

We are talking about history, Germany and Britain here so go and police someone else’s conversation.

Hubi,

Up to a million German soldiers died in Soviet captivity. Being in Allied captivity was a walk in the park in comparison.

Amaltheamannen,

And many millions of Soviet citizens and communists in general were murdered by nazis.

Lichtblitz,

Revenge and justice are two separate things and only one of those brings humanity forward. The whataboutism is pretty dangerous when it comes to justifying the former.

Hubi,

I don’t see anybody denying this here but it’s also not really the topic of the discussion.

Candelestine,

Yeah, I think even the most fervent USSR hater should be able to acknowledge their heavy losses in WW2. They may not have won the whole war themselves or anything, but they did make many sacrifices for those battles.

I’d even go so far as to say that if one’s opinions were to lead one towards disrespecting their dead, who were just defending their homes, then one may have an unusually strong personal bias.

SupraMario,

Well considering they were with the Nazis until Hitler told them no thanks…

ElZoido,
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The Reihnwiesen weren't exactly a walk in the park. But at least they were mostly temporary.

Potatos_are_not_friends, in TIL That "The Brain" from Arthur was voiced by right-wing personality Steven Crowder from 2000-2001.

Ah yeah dude was a failed actor so he found this new calling… Being a grifter.

lobut,

Shapiro was a failed writer too wasn’t he?

PerogiBoi,
@PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca avatar

I seem to recall in history another failed artist in history but it’s kinda hazy right now.

Art3sian, in TIL your skin health can actually impact your overall health including heart and neurological conditions
@Art3sian@lemmy.world avatar

What did I just attempt to read? Someone’s travel diary?

idiomaddict,

The first two and a half paragraphs, yes.

avalokitesha, in TIL that America is one of the few cultures with insults for smart people

I’m insulted how little effort the author put into supporting his thesis.

“Streber” in German is a common insult if you’re good in school, and it often meant social death in class. Sure, geek and nerd have become commonplace and are used as German words now, but that’s also because if you are one your English is good enough and it’s just easier to use the short word from another language that pretty much all geeks and nerds use than to use the German one.

It has actually not really the negative connotation that the English word has, it feels more like a name for a subculture, like goth.

heimchen,

Schlaumeier

Rodeo,

Geek and nerd are now like that too, in the last ten to fifteen years. They used to be insults, now it’s a subculture.

EhForumUser, (edited )

Geek and nerd had negative connotations when geeks and nerds were commonly poor, but then things shifted and, notably with the rise of the Information Age, being a geek and/or nerd turned into being useful in becoming wealthy. Now it is a compliment.

True of all insults, really. Same reason, for example, words with associations to slavery are considered insults. Or those related to the sale of sexual favours. The implication is that one is poor. Any words you can throw at someone who is rich will be something most people will want to wear as a badge of honour.

Hank, in TIL that America is one of the few cultures with insults for smart people

Americans are so ignorant they even think they're the only ignorant people in the world.

NathanielThomas,

They are among the best at it, you have to admit

some_guy, in TIL that America is one of the few cultures with insults for smart people
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Thanks for the book report on it, Poindexter

theodewere,
theodewere avatar

lol where's the nearest trash can.. we'll show this nerd..

SturgiesYrFase,

Screw that! I say we give 'em a swirly!

Matt_Shatt,

Awful waffle! Awful waffle!

theodewere,
theodewere avatar

awww, swirlies.. those were the days..

baseless_discourse, in TIL that America is one of the few cultures with insults for smart people

Chinese have similar words for “nerd”: “书呆子”, literally translated to “book doofus”. However, It is not used nearly as common as “geek” and “nerd” in English.

It also has a much thinner scope. It only refers to people who are too dogmatic about theoretical knowledge, yet lacks real world skills.

DigitalAudio,
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Same thing in (some variants of) Spanish. You have ñoño, someone who is always trying to outperform the others academically, usually it’s those who make a huge effort without seeing proportional results for it.

But we have very few insults for intellectual or smart people. Practically none I can think of.

LiquorFan,

“Friki” was popular when I was a teen, but that comes from the English, “freak”. And obviously we use nerd and geek sometimes.

DigitalAudio,
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Arguably, though, friki is more about the media and entertainment the person consumes than about them being smart.

li10,

It only refers to people who are too dogmatic about theoretical knowledge, yet lacks real world skills.

Should definitely make an English word for exactly that.

Then I know what to call that fucker who keeps asking retarded questions at the end of a meeting where everyone else is in agreement.

EhForumUser,

Should definitely make an English word for exactly that.

We have! Teacher.

baseless_discourse,

oh no, a lot of the time, “book dufus” actually need to be well-versed in theoretical knowledge, I doubt “people asking stupid question at the end of the meeting” fit that description.

li10,

I’m talking about the people who get caught up on little details and hypotheticals which are irrelevant, just asking “what if” for the sake of it and wasting everyone’s time

theodewere,
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it's interesting you narrow the definition like that, because i think that's really the original definition of nerd.. like if you asked someone in the 50's in the US, that's what they would have described.. someone who takes theory to anti-social extremes.. but like you said, it seems to cover a lot more now, or at least get used a lot more..

and i love how literal "book dufus" is, that's great

baseless_discourse,

I enjoy the fact that the phrase used to make fun of “smart people” uses extremely simple words.

theodewere,
theodewere avatar

yes! it seems to expose its origins among the common folk pretty clearly, doesn't it..

Contramuffin,

That’s really just Chinese in general. Terms are made as though a 7 year old kid tried to describe it. Here’s some examples:

  • computer: electric mind
  • hospital: health park
  • teacher: old wiseman
  • refrigerator: cold box
  • phone: electric talk
  • plane: flying machine
baseless_discourse,

I think the way you translate Chinese characters into English loses level of sophistication of the characters. For example, “医院” is definitely more sophisticate than “health park”, despite character has these meanings.

“书呆子” really is as simple as it can get.

Also common items typically have more approachable names.

nonfuinoncuro,

For example, “医院” is definitely more sophisticate than “health park”

such as the real characters being 醫院. you could spend a while dissecting (pun not intended) all of the characters that make up “medicine” and its rich etymology

Leax, in TIL that after psychologist Timothy Leary was sentenced to prison, he had to take a test that he himself created. He used his knowledge to be assigned to a lower-security prison and escaped.

Quite a cool story!

JoeKrogan, in TIL that the last two Jews in Afghanistan argued so much that the Taliban imprisoned them, but then released both after their constant bickering in prison became too annoying.
@JoeKrogan@lemmy.world avatar

Total George Costanza move, he loves to hold a grudge.

YurkshireLad, in TIL the word "apron" comes from the Old French word "napron." Over time "a napron" became "an apron."

Check out the YouTube channel “Rob Words”, as he covered this. It was news to me too!

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