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avidamoeba, (edited ) in Why the heck do I need to pay for security updates???
@avidamoeba@lemmy.ca avatar

These packages are not available in other distros and you can get them for free for up to 5 machines. Previously you weren’t able to get them at all without paying for corp support.

GammaGames, (edited ) in Why the heck do I need to pay for security updates???

It’s free for personal use. It used to be a paid-only service to let you get 10 years of security updates (LTS support is usually only 5)

davel, (edited )
@davel@lemmy.ml avatar

Right, it’s premium support for corporations that want to stick with a release past its normal expiration date.

The labor required to perform that maintenance costs money, and honestly it’s shit work that you’d have to pay me a lot to convince me to do.

neidu2, in Why the heck do I need to pay for security updates???

I don’t use ubuntu, so this is news to me. Please clarify by answering this question: The fuck?

fuckwit_mcbumcrumble,
  1. Ubuntu Pro is free now for personal use
  2. You’re paying for extra support. This is nothing new. This is how FOSS makes money outside of begging for donations.
neidu2,

So basically they’re following the redhat model? OP made it seem like something very different…

PhobosAnomaly, in What's the deal with Ubuntu Pro? Annoying Update Dialog pop-up on Desktop?

My understanding (and I’m happy to be corrected) is that feature and security updates will continue to be provided for Ubuntu.

Ubuntu Pro’s update badgering seems to allow for updates to be provided for packages that aren’t part of the base distro makeup - like packages that are held in non-Canonical repos.

For home users, Ubuntu Pro is free… for now.

I don’t think it’s anything horrendously bad, but the way it’s been rolled out is pretty fuckin’ far from good too.

avidamoeba,
@avidamoeba@lemmy.ca avatar

This is correct. There’s no need for Ubuntu Pro to get the updates you used to get prior to Ubuntu Pro’s introduction. Ubuntu Pro gives additional updates that were not available before and the community does not provide. It’s free for up to 5 machines so you should register and enable it. There’s no downside for now.

_edge,

OK, but still annoying.

Are those updates available on Debian, Fedora, …?

avidamoeba,
@avidamoeba@lemmy.ca avatar

On Debian they’re not. I’ve no idea how community support works on Fedora. I don’t think there’s corp support of any kind on Fedora.

_edge,

Well, the list looked like those packages should most definitely in the core Canonical repos. Pretty standard libraries.

0x31337, in Trying to access the sudo command (incorrect password)

If you typed your password wrong too many times you may have been locked out for a certain amount of time (normally 30 mins after 3 wrong attempts). In this situation sudo will not display a different error it will still say the password is wrong. You can clear the failed attempts using the command “faillock --reset”. Hopefully that solves it if not check your caps lock, and keyboard layout.

SorteKanin, in Trying to access the sudo command (incorrect password)
@SorteKanin@feddit.dk avatar

Are you sure you are inputting the right password? For instance, are you sure your keyboard layout is correct? If the keyboard layout is different, you may think you type one thing but type another.

It is also possible that you have simply misspelled the password during setup. A reinstall is the only way to fix that I think.

pezmaker,
@pezmaker@sh.itjust.works avatar

Unless I’m missing something, the sudo password should be the user’s password, so unless they’ve never logged out as their user, they should’ve already used the password to login. I wonder if they’re trying to use the root/su password instead of their own user’s

cypherpunks,
@cypherpunks@lemmy.ml avatar

It is also possible that you have simply misspelled the password during setup. A reinstall is the only way to fix that I think.

A reinstall is only needed if your forgot your disk encryption passphrase. See my other comment in this thread for how to reset forgotten root and/or user passwords.

BlackXanthus, in Why the heck do I need to pay for security updates???

I don’t run Ubuntu, but was surprised I’d not heard of this.

This is canonical trying to make money for security updates, and stopping companies just running it for free, instead of using a licence (my own take). They are following a model by IBM, apparently.

You can get round it by getting a ‘pro’ licence for free for up to 5 machines. At least according to ask Ubuntu. askubuntu.com/…/im-getting-the-message-the-follow…

More reasons to avoid Ubuntu, imo.

avidamoeba, (edited )
@avidamoeba@lemmy.ca avatar

That’s not at all what’s happening. Canonical have not put anything that was previously available without an account, behind this service. As others have noted, they’re making something that was previously paid-only, free for up to 5 machines.

avidamoeba, in Where's the best place to ask for Ubuntu support?
@avidamoeba@lemmy.ca avatar

AskUbuntu.com by far. Many years ago it replaced ubuntuforums.org for support queries. As others have pointed out, the current discussion place is discourse.ubuntu.com. But for support questions AskUbuntu.com is the best place and the best format because it’s easy to find the questions and the answers from within and via search engines without having to sift through tons of discussion responses. Anything that’s already answered becomes easy to find for the next person having this problem. Sometimes when I find the solution to a problem I had that wasn’t obvious, I add a question and answer it myself for others to find. Of course you can ask here as well. ☺️

lud, in Where's the best place to ask for Ubuntu support?

AskUbuntu maybe.

glibg10b, in What's the deal with Ubuntu Pro? Annoying Update Dialog pop-up on Desktop?

Ubuntu Pro is free.

_edge,

Then, what’s the point? APT worked perfectly well for decades without creating accounts.

glibg10b,

It’s not free for commercial use. It’s a paywall for companies

display_name1, in Trying to access the sudo command (incorrect password)

I am certain I am inputting the same password that I am using for authentication during login. Certain in the sense that I have triple checked that I am typing the correct keys on my laptop keyboard, and the password only contains lower case letters.

In terms of keyboard layout, I have confirmed I am using US. Is there a different password specific for sudo that I am missing here? I’ve never set the password for root, since this requires the use of sudo and I’ve never been able to access sudo.

YoorWeb,

sudo - use current user password

su - use root password

Does it say that the user is not “sudoer” or just rejects the pass?

hackerwacker, in Trying to access the sudo command (incorrect password)

You can boot into recovery mode from the boot menu, which will give you root access without any password. From there you can reset your user password with passwd.

cypherpunks, (edited )
@cypherpunks@lemmy.ml avatar

Or, if recovery mode does ask for a password...you can edit Linux’s commandline arguments in the bootloader to add init=/bin/sh and then it will boot to a root shell without a password. the rootfs will be mounted read-only, so, before using passwd you need to first run mount -oremount,rw / to remount it read-write. then run passwd (to set root’s password) or passwd user (to set user’s), and then run sync to ensure the changes are flushed to disk, and then sync twice more for superstitious/historical reasons, and then turn the computer off and back on. (the reboot command will not work here.)

lightrush, in Why is snap disliked?
@lightrush@lemmy.ca avatar

A mix of misinformation, some bugs and a lot of strong feelings.

Dustwin, in Why is snap disliked?

I really enjoy snaps, they gave vastly improved. It’s great having the greatest and latest without to use PPAs and breaking my system.

Saezher,

I’m pretty new with ubuntu, but it seems that softwares through deb packages are still way more fast that snap.

tamagotchicowboy, in Intermittent audio cutout over HDMI - Ubuntu 22.04.4
@tamagotchicowboy@hexbear.net avatar

Could try a new hdmi cable or if possible another hdmi slot on the card as well as the display if it has one. I would start with switching over teh next slot on the GPU, then switching over to the next slot on the display, then a new cable

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