UN likely to vote Tuesday on Gaza ceasefire, US signals veto

The United Nations Security Council is likely to vote on Tuesday on an Algerian push for the 15-member body to demand an immediate humanitarian ceasefire in the Israel-Hamas war, said diplomats, a move the United States signaled it would veto.

“The United States does not support action on this draft resolution. Should it come up for a vote as drafted, it will not be adopted,” Thomas-Greenfield said in a statement on Saturday.

catloaf,

There will probably be a slightly amended one that gets passed more quietly in a few days. That’s what happened the last time. The US vetoed the first one, then abstained from the second to let it pass.

www.cnn.com/2023/12/22/politics/…/index.html

Linkerbaan,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

That resolution was about humanitarian aid, and has been fully ignored and violated.

Also the first ceasefire was vetoed by America because it “didn’t condemn Hamas”.

Then Brazil submitted asimilar motion to call for a ceasefire AND condemn Hamas.** And then America vetoed it again.**

Genocide Joe wants to keep this going

Therealgoodjanet, (edited )

Can we just get rid of vetoes? What’s the point?

herrcaptain,

They could try, but something tells me that vote would get vetoed.

mkwt,

The veto and permanent seats are there to keep the superpowers in the UN organization. If you take away the veto, then US, Russia, etc would probably just say they don’t recognize the authority of the security council, and then go do their own thing.

This veto mechanic kept the US and USSR in the room and at least talking to each other throughout the entire cold war. That’s gotta be worth something.

Maalus,

It’s worth nothing and it shows time and time again.

Cinner,

We don’t know what it’s worth, because we aren’t living in an alternate universe where the US and USSR weren’t in open dialogue through the cold war. We’re still in the pre-WWIII reality (for a few years, at least).

Maalus,

Nah, we don’t need to be living in an alternate reality. It’s useless and never helps. The countries permanently on the security council always have an interest in any war that happens. So every resolution worth a damn is getting instantly vetoed by one of them. All it is, is facebook’s “thoughts and prayers” on the geopolitical scale.

ModernRisk,
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It truly amazes me that US still refuses to ceasefire after more than 20 000 normal civilians of the Palestinian people have been murdered by the Israeli government.

This has nothing to do with either “self defense” or “defeating” Hamas anymore.

Deceptichum,
Deceptichum avatar

30,000*

kick_out_the_jams,

This has nothing to do with either “self defense” or “defeating” Hamas anymore.

They had a ceasefire on Oct 7th...
I imagine that's a factor.

Linkerbaan,
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A ceasefire is when israel throws bombs on brown children in Gaza and Palestinians don’t retaliate?

ModernRisk, (edited )
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Just like in 1948 where the Palestinians lived in peace?

  • Israel stealing land since 1948.
  • Israel displacing 750 000 Palestinians in 1948.
  • Israel purposefully starving Palestinians.
  • Israel having Apartheid for decades upon decades.
  • The fact Hamas only exists due to Israel’s actions (1948 and Hamas made in 1987).
  • Israel Ethnic Cleansing.
  • Israel murdering more than 20 000 Palestinian people in the name of “self defense”.
  • Israel continuously lying about important things (example the calendar picture, claiming it was something important about Hamas but it was just an Arabic calendar and the 40 babies claim).
  • Israel saying they want to drop an atomic bomb on Gaza (normal civilians!!!)
  • Israel calling normal civilians “animals”

Or do you call it peace when Israel do illegal settlements in the Westbank, prison Palestinians, Apartheid and ridicule Palestinians for no reasons.

Stop pretending that it started on 7 oct. It never started at that date. It didn’t even start in 1948 but that’s the moment when Israel stole the majority of the land (the Nakba).

EDIT: I don’t agree with what Hamas did but after being driven out their land, homes, ridiculed, murdered. Apartheid. It is understandable at one point some lose their sanity and will have only hatred in their hearts.

Do realize they lost everything they ever cared for. Land stolen, homes stolen, families and friends murdered.

guriinii,

Because they support the actions of Zionist Israel. The US talk about getting in aid and of humanitarian ceasefires but they still give them billions of dollars and weapons.

BNE,
@BNE@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

They also inked deals for gas/oil exporting rights to the Gazan coast.

clot27,
@clot27@lemm.ee avatar

Why is veto still there? How the hell is the US or any other veto country superior to others? How does their opinion matter more than what the majority of the world thinks? This veto thing should be abolished for good.

Aurenkin,

Nukes

Linkerbaan,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

The UN is practically ran by America so chances are low it will change against its interests.

Aside from lip-service the only time it will intervene is when an African dictator backed by Western powers is facing a revolution.

I still like it because it forces countries to vote on something and openly show where they stand on subjects. But it doesn’t have much practical value.

GenEcon,

Its not run by the US, but by all permanent members. China and Russia are doing the same shit, see Ukraine for example.

Linkerbaan,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

No it’s practivally ran by the US.

This interview with ex UN employee Craig Mokhaiber explains it well.

ryathal,

The un is about making countries feel heard while the super powers run everything. It’s not about equal rights.

assassinatedbyCIA,

Because international law and order is more of a ‘here are laws that I order you to follow’ when it comes to the relation of powerful countries to weaker countries. It’s a joke.

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