The Gulf Stream plays a significant role in maintaining the climate of the US East Coast and Western Europe. “We conclude with a high degree of confidence that Gulf Stream transport has indeed slowed by about 4% in the past 40 years.” The full study is Here
A Parisian expert in French literature failed Quebec’s “French Proficiency Exam”, not to mention how other languages don’t get anything close to the pedestal treatment English and French get under Canada’s official bilingualism. One of Trudeau’s cabinet was subjected to quebecoise nationalist mistreatment because she spoke an indigenous language instead of French.
And BTW, I’m saying that as someone of Quebecoise descent, likely pure laine as recently as my grandmother.
Your response was a relief; as the emoji I posted was indicating, I was worried it was some frothing about pronoun preferences having some legal protections.
Nah, I just think official language status is a violation of free speech, and of the natural development and evolution of culture.
I mean just look at France and Quebec in contrast, motherland French and Quebecoise French are nearly separate languages from each other with how incomprehensible they can be to each other, and yet both Quebec and France have strict prescriptivist official language policies in place supposedly in the name of “preserving the French language.”
If there was any sort of naturalness to any of it they’d rigidly have maintained the same exact language with all the same linguistic conventions, and yet that has not happened at all, debunking the supposed entire point of this farce in the first place.
The only reason to maintain it at this point is that it excludes the lower classes from public office and official spaces, since they are the most likely to diverge from a prescribed cultural structure, and you can see that in Ontario where francophones raised riot when funds were beginning to be allocated for the language support of Indian and Chinese languages that actually had more speakers within Ontario than French did. It’s not about preserving a minority language, it’s about refusing the rights of immigrants to have their languages accommodated as well.
Boi you’re the one who just decided to go to bat for anti-immigrant, anti-indigenous, and anti-working-class official language statuses and unofficial taboos against monolinguals or “wrong” bilinguals in state representation.
Either that or you’re a dumbfuck who didn’t read the rest of the thread and decided you wanted to pop off anyways about some unrelated grievance completely separated from this conversation like the dumbfuck doing that would make ya, dumbfuck.
Seeing this, i kinda hope that it happens as fast as possible. That way the rich will see exactly what they’ve done, and maybe we’ll manage to get some revenge
Yeah, force the rich to see all the poor people dying from their ivory towers. I’m sure they’ll suddenly start worrying about other people’s suffering.
I welcome the decrease in temperature, but it would be great if it weren’t connected to the earth being irreparably fucked. One winter at -40 (C or F) and people will start moving south and I might actually be able to afford to buy a house.
Is this not the only tipping point that can actually reduce energy held by the biosphere due to increased ice in the northern hemisphere, and therefor increasing Earth’s albedo?
Robust Weakening of the Gulf Stream During the Past Four Decades Observed in the Florida Straits doi.org/10.1029/2023GL105170
Plain Language Summary
The Gulf Stream is a major ocean current located off the East Coast of the United States. It carries a tremendous amount of seawater and along with it heat, carbon, and other ocean constituents. Because of this, the Gulf Stream plays an important role in weather and climate, influencing phenomena as seemingly unrelated as sea level along coastal Florida and temperature and precipitation over continental Europe. Given how important this ocean current is to science and society, scientists have tried to determine whether the Gulf Stream has undergone significant changes under global warming, but so far, they have not reached a firm conclusion. Here we report our effort to synthesize available Gulf Stream observations from the Florida Straits near Miami, and to assess whether and how the Gulf Stream transport there has changed since 1982. We conclude with a high degree of confidence that Gulf Stream transport has indeed slowed by about 4% in the past 40 years, the first conclusive, unambiguous observational evidence that this ocean current has undergone significant change in the recent past. Future studies should try to identify the cause of this change.
No its not. And im not denying climate change or anything.
This is a phenomenon that increases climate change, but i saw nothing in the article suggesting this slowdown of the stream was caused by climate change.
For example, if i start a forest fire and a ton of trees are burned, this will increase climate change, but this theoretical forest fire wouldnt have been caused BY climate change - it would have been caused by me.
The abstract strongly suggests “climate change is likely responsible”, but i saw nothing in the article supporting that. Maybe i just missed it, but i was quite disappointed.
Probably does - but it was disappointing the article did not give any expert’s explanation on the matter. Why is it so wrong to state that those details are missing from the article?
This is most likely caused by changes in ocean temperatures. Those changes are part of climate change.
Global weather is an extremely complex system. Any change will have knock-on effects on the rest of the system. If the changes are big enough, you start seeing big effects like this.
I’m not sure what your example is meant to show. An ocean-scale current isn’t something you can walk up to and mess with. But burning forests is certainly a contributor to climate change, which would be one of the causative factors in ocean warming and currents changing.
Its just a simple example of cause and effect. I am not denying climate change, i just saw no explanation in the article about which parts of climate change diectly contributed to this, which felt very missing considering its in the abstract. This is all i am saying.
Your explanation is true, but i just wanted the details.
Ice from Greenland and Canada is melting and flowing into the northern North Atlantic, slowing down the Gulf Stream. This is quite well known in the climate community, which might be why the article did not explicitly say it.
Even if OP meant global warming, they didn’t include evidence here because it’s pretty much implied. If you’re literate enough to read actual papers there are indeed people that work out the odds each event or disaster is unrelated to GW, and those odds are often tiny.
A phenomenon that causes climate change is not necessarily caused by climate change. If i burn a forest down it would increase climate change, but the cause is me burning down a forest.
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