AmosBurton

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AmosBurton,

The UN in a nutshell.

Warrent arrest of Israeli PM for alleged war crimes while defending its population.

Moment of silence for a man who slaughtered 10s of thousands of his own people.

AmosBurton,

I wonder what they will cry then. 🤣

AmosBurton,

Max necessary? 0! What a moronic question.

It is not necessary to kill any children. Its called “collateral damage”. During war, this is unavoidable. During war with hamas(Isis), they go to great lengths to maximize this number to benefit their propaganda.

If you ask me, I would sacrifice every last one of them in order to eradicating hamas(Isis). Western civilization/values are worth more than the children killed in the hands of hamas(Isis).

Now I will direct this question back at you, What is the maximum number of children who need to die before hamas(Isis) surrender?

You can check ratio numbers here: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilian_casualty_ratio

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collateral_damage

Under international humanitarian law and the Rome Statute, the death of civilians during an armed conflict, no matter how grave and regrettable, does not in itself constitute a war crime. International humanitarian law and the Rome Statute permit belligerents to carry out proportionate attacks against military objectives,[17] even when it is known that some civilian deaths or injuries will occur.

Also, if you want some more insight, he speakers from experience:

youtu.be/pjOEJumoABg?si=KEzu1r6JmT8Wo6VM

youtu.be/UPomqJz-qYc?si=5StBo5m7vGIXwhoX

Oh, and don’t forget about hamas’s(Isis) baloney data.

fathomjournal.org/statistically-impossible-a-crit…

AmosBurton,

You would give up you basic human rights for them?

Keep in mind, if Israel let hamas stay in power, it will prove to the scattered Isis cells that kidnappings can and will bring democracies to their knees.

What will happen all across Europe in that scenario?

Hamas must be plucked from the root, condemned and thrown away!

And yes, collateral damage is terrible, but it does not give a free pass for genocide.

AmosBurton,

Obviously collateral damage is terrible, but it is a fact of war.

Hamas(Isis) go out of their way to inflate collateral damage. This should give them a free pass to do as they please?

AmosBurton,

Amazing how hamas can go into Israel, murder children, then get asylum by hiding among its own children.

By your logic I can grab a couple of babies, shoot up school, and I should be untouchable as long as I have a baby vest?

AmosBurton,

How can ethnic cleansing and genocide cause a population to grow?

…wikipedia.org/…/Demographics_of_the_State_of_Pal…

Every arab country in the region was clensed of Jews.

…wikipedia.org/…/Jewish_exodus_from_the_Muslim_wo…

And, Israel had genocide commuted against it on the 7th of October.

So your accusations of genocide and ethnic cleansing are misplaced.

Free elections is not in their culture at this point in time.

The most powerful tribe takes control by force and that’s that.

Just to play this out, if Israel is no longer the common enemy of these tribes, they will turn on each other.

AmosBurton,

Yes, the moment hamas started this war, they condemned the people of Gaza to a hellish decade or two.

AmosBurton,

Yes, because hamas is the reason for this soldier being there.

AmosBurton,

War crimes are crimes. If any happened, Israel will be held accountable.

But still, hamas are the ones who brought this on Gaza.

AmosBurton,

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collateral_damage

Under international humanitarian law and the Rome Statute, the death of civilians during an armed conflict, no matter how grave and regrettable, does not in itself constitute a war crime. International humanitarian law and the Rome Statute permit belligerents to carry out proportionate attacks against military objectives,[17] even when it is known that some civilian deaths or injuries will occur.

There is a very very big IF about it.

Hamas and their supporters attempted to genocide Israelis(and will do it again and again until they succeede). So yes, they made Israel go hunt the threat.

All you’re saying is that, to you, it’s fine for the IDF to kill every single child in Gaza as long as someone has to pay the price for it in court later.

To me, the IDF can do whatever it finds to be necessary to ensure the safety of the people of Israel. If hamas put children in their way, the IDF is not at fault.

AmosBurton, (edited )

m.jpost.com/middle-east/article-767627

Yes they are. Once they finish with Israel, they will attack Europe and the Americas.

AmosBurton,

You are entitled to your opinion.

I feel the Palestinians who call for the eradication of Israel aren’t worth protecting. I believe only force will crush this ridiculous idea.

But again, this is an opinion.

AmosBurton,

Now we are at the lowest point intellectually in these exchange.

Babies cannot talk.

But at the same time, they aren’t the orb of Osuvox.

Premeture death terrible no matter who where or what.

Hamas targeted Israeli babies and then went hiding under their own. How can you fight someone who hates you more than they love their children?

Its insanity to support such people!

AmosBurton,

Really?

What will NATO do when 10 differant sleeper cells each kidnap some children and woman?

Fight or surrender?

If you believe they will fight, then they will quickly start racking up civilian casualties. How will the “progressive” youths react?

You underestimating Hamas’s power or intent is a really bad and dangerous thing to.

AmosBurton,

Israel isn’t killing a population, it is eradicating a terror organization.

They would became hamas wants to take down the west and the US in particular.

Palestinian protests burned a US flag on US soil. What has this world come to?

AmosBurton,

By eradicating and displacing a population.

By eny means necessary.

So? Flag burning has been a protest method for decades

I would maybe accept this argument if it wasn’t for the fact that the US flag is burned while Palestinian flag is raised in its place and “death to America chants” in the background.

I don’t know. Seems like pissing in your own drinking water.

AmosBurton,

That is irrelevant.

AmosBurton,

Because I asked a hypothetical and you’re trying to reason.

AmosBurton,

Quickest and safest was would be from the air, and it would be over rather quickly.

AmosBurton,

Really? I belive A few large bombs are cheaper that drafting so many people and being at war for so long. Think of just the social services that go along with wartime. Anything from widdow compensation to solder psychologist evaluations.

Just guessing though.

AmosBurton,

Worrying

AmosBurton,

Worrying could lead to measures which might help to avoid/reduced impact/midigate destruction of the next incident.

AmosBurton,

I don’t know about you, but when I’m worried, I am more alert.

Let’s say my some kids are playing in the sea, my worry will keep me looking over to see everything is OK.

So in our case, if we the individuals are worried about extreme Muslim movements/communities, we will be more alert around them and keep an eye out. This way a planned attack is harder to carry out.

But that’s just a theory.

AmosBurton,

Mmmm Iron dome might be an example.

Worries of rockets fired by extream Muslims rapidly excelerated the development, production and deployment or the system.

The death toll from terror attacks was reduced by a lot (in calculatable [for me at least])

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