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Again, no

The previous valuation was a lie. It did not exist, nobody could get it but politicians and friends of said power. What doesnt exist cant loose value

The current however is real, and everyone can have at it. It does exist, and its been like that for a while.

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Strange make false claims in the light of knowledge, bold to say the least

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The security minister is in the government, yes.

The person who said “prison or bullet” is not.

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Considering that the security forces will only incur when protesters take away the fundamental right of transiting the streets… which is a crime, an Invoice instead of prison is rather light

Now is it anarcho capitalist? Well people paying for their actions and its consequences being a law sounds rather anarcho-capitalist to me

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Ah yes, fascists. Not like those werent in power until 2 weeks ago and the opposing candidate to Milei wasnt using government power to investigate, accuse and imprison (if not kill) those who made campaign against him

Not that has anything to do with Milei, but when you consider that… and the fact that Milei has done nothing but comply to his campaign promises you gotta wonder whos the real fascist… or even the definition

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It appears that we have different definitions of fascism

“A far right political ideology that is anti-democratic, ultra nationalist, and totalitarian”

Which… yeah doesnt fit at all to his so far 7 days of government

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It’s impressive there’s even a fight to be had here, I expected Lemmy to be way more critical than Reddit but people seem to boast being lied to, meanwhile in Reddit this article has already been taken down for missinformation, thanks to the dozens of Argies providing proof of it being the case, saying the same things I am

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In that case, could you please number the “Actions” they’ve done that deem them fascist? It’s been 7 days of government, im sure you’ll have no issue narrowing them down in such a timeframe. I would like details if you are able to provide, thanks!

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All I can say is that Wikipedia is not a reliable source but I understand investigating profoundly every minor topic is a nuisance, but if you don’t, it all basically boils down to “trust me bro” which is what my answer is about to be:

Jose Luis Espert is a Libertarian Legislator sure, but not on Milei’s Party, he and her companion are their own block “Avanza Libertad” while Milei’s block is “La Libertad Avanza” which Understandably might cause confusion, but the fact is that they arent the same. Meanwhile Espert’s block is affiliated with “The Pro” or “Juntos por el Cambio” who Milei’s government has made a coallition with to be enabled to govern/pass laws in the Senate. Basically an alliance

Espert is NOWHERE in that picture however. The english article might just be outdated, tho as Milei and Espert used to be friends but they went separate ways when Espert Joined the Pro like 7 months ago. Would recommend the spanish article which is somewhat more accurate

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Thanks for the summary, unfortunately I must correct some inaccuracies on the provided bullet points

Number 1: The threat of Jail is only for those protesters who incur on Blocking Public roads and or depriving other citizens of their right to freely transit, which has always been against the law, which makes them Criminals. The threat of Jail is only for criminals. And the claim of shooting protesters is from someone NOT in the government, in fact they are opposition so it’s not attributable to the government in any way.

Hope this helps to make a clearer vision of what they have/are actually doing, would you please be so kind to update the list so we can see how many fascist things they are doing with that clarified?

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The principle of no-agression and respecting the other’s freedom are literally the principles or Anarcho-capitalism

This measures ensure that those are enforced, how is it against anarcho-capitalism?

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Not out in the woods necessarily, but it certainly wouldnt make a horrible protest place either.

They just have to do it like how Argentines protested against The Minister of Economy ot the Previous Government (Milei’s opponent in the presidential elections) where they manifested, called and paid by no one (unlike these “Piqueteros” the article talks about), on a Sunday and blocked no streets or pathways. Simple as that!

Coki91,
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In case you really are intersted, I would suggest r/Argentina on Reddit or r/Republica_Argentina again on Reddit

To clarify the former is more right-oriented (pro current gov, against past) and the latter is Left-oriented (pro past gov, against current)

Official new sources straight from Argentina are hard to trust, as they used to be Paid by the government and served as propagandists for it until like a week ago since Milei made a decree to halt said Payments for at least a Year (You can search about this with the term “Pauta oficial Argentina”)

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Half the country doesn’t know how to read

Half the country voted for the Minister of Economy that ran the economy to the ground, used 2 Points of the Country’s GDP for his Political campaign and was also Defacto President the past 2 Years (not democratically elected) using the Ideology that has governed Argentina for 20 Years now

I think you just cracked the code who the “Backwards idiots” you so speak of might be

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I don’t know how an Anti-Corruption office would go with Media Outlets spewing misinformation, free speech is fundamental after all. If they say something that’s wrong they should be sued by the affected, people should loose interest in their channel and it would die off because there’s no profit when nobody watches or trusts them.

On another hand, there are some trustable ones but of course who those are varies from person to person, for now let’s just wait until the ones that cant survive without the government’s money die off and we’ll put up to public scrutiny the rest

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Are you… advocating violence?..

I literally just said a peaceful manifestation without violation of the other’s right is possible and has been done not even too far back.

And also, these “Piquetes” aren’t peaceful at all. It is violent to stop workers from going to work, threatening their income necessary to sustain their life, it’s a crime under the hood of enforcing a right and that’s why they should be repressed. Those who don’t incur on the people’s freedom to go to work and live peacefully shouldn’t be of course.

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He hasnt done such thing? During Presidential Debates he literally brought them up…

And someone having friends that think alike? What a crazy concept! Just like Peronism that reivindicated dictators around the world and has ties with Maduro’s Venezuela and China, even selling part of the country to them

Glad they didnt win.

Coki91,
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It was a genuine question, Im at a Loss of what are you trying to say or imply

I’ll stand by my claim that a peaceful protest that doesnt violate anyone else’s rights is not only possible, but should be the norm where these “Social” Organizations have only done the contrary in Argentina thus far.

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“Ancaps arent Anarchists”

Yes… exactly. I see you understand why they are called different things

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You just gave me the right on everything about Espert… Including that he’s just a legislator and LLA having an Alliance with JxC to be allowed to govern… So thanks I guess

However, no the Peso was not devaluated, the Official exchange just moved towards the real exchange since for some reason they dont want to steal more from the Workers and Tourists that fall for the trap of the Official Exchange… HMMMM

And yeah let’s just be absolutists and say the right is never the answer, that’s obviously flawless and correct and doesnt make you look any biased at all…

And would like to know the quote you are apparently replying to? Because so far Milei has advocated to follow the constitution, has complied with his campaign promises so far and has been democratically elected unlike his opponent in the Elections who has De-Facto President on his Minister of Economy facade, Surely those arent fascists, correct?

Coki91,
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What are you on about?

Are you confusing principles and ideals of an ideology for an instated regime? Or what’s your point here

Coki91,
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Or… neither?

Words have meanings beyond the people that use them, if the meaning is appropiate for representing something, it shall be used.

Is not like “Phobia” is on many “Phobias” just for the sake of it.

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There’s an Arg lemmy? If so mind linking it, dont think I’ve seen one yet

Coki91,
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What would have you chosen instead then? Something more precise would be good to know.

Coki91,
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I don’t know who’s interpretation of Anarcho-Capitalism you are following, but since ther has never been an Anarcho Capilist government in the world (which sounds ironical) it’s all just ideas and interpretations, of which seem you are grabbing the worst of the pile.

Rothbard’s definition includes in the fundamentals of the Contractual Society being voluntarily approached and free of violence or harm, which is to say that if you do not respect the inalienable rights of the others, you are violating the Contract for being in that society, and you are rightfully gonna be aprehended. There is no contradiction

Also, to what you said about “demonstrated” something, mind linking to what you have? There’s nothing around here like that

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