Wow I’m surprised you even admitted your dishonesty. Leninists usually don’t do that ever. They’ll die on the hill they’d made for themselves rather than adjust their beliefs or admit fault.
You could have just said that without making shit up and being dishonest. I know the reason you didn’t. But you could have done that. The reason you didn’t though. You did not give any evidence. You cited two correlations and called it a causation of a separate 3rd thing with no evidence. There is as much evidence to support my statement as there is the support yours. Make of that what you will. But don’t go trying to convince anyone that you have any facts or evidence LOL.
Over the last century the United States has pushed a lot of propaganda at home and abroad that is a fact and I never disputed it. They aren’t alone on that either. I just think it’s hilarious that people think that just automatically translates into the online space. They’ve been shit at it. And on their back foot the whole time. The internet has poked more holes in it than everything before it. And they are far more vulnerable to foreign misinformation themselves then their modern contemporaries.
The idea that the US gov’t doesn’t propagandize the US people is just so laughably and observably false.
I never said they didn’t. But thank you for showing that you’re not here in good faith and are just being disingenuous. It lets us all know not to bother talking to you.
She 100% did. I share your sentiment. He did amazing still. And honestly I think he’s done better with the power he got in the Senate after running. Than he ever would have been able to do in the office of the president with both Democrats and Republicans against him.
You’re talking too much sense for most ML to tolerate. And far too many elsewhere as well.
We have to work within the systems that exist. Not the systems we wished existed. And if that wasn’t bad enough, so many refuse to engage with the system at all. Seeking only to accelerate it’s destruction regardless of those that will be killed. All the while pretending to be pious and claiming they wish to stop the killing.
There are no easy choices in life. I’m no Democrat. But I know everyone’s lives will effectively be worse with Republicans in control.
People say a lot of things. People only have the ability to do the things they’re given. He can push for it to change. He can even expedite already approved shipments. But what he can’t do is start or stop them himself. Congress can and the Republicans have shown they would override him.
I’m not denying that all countries do it including the United states. What I’m simply pointing out is the absurdity of the claim that the United States and their military are even very prevalent let alone effective at it these days on line.
There are much better/ safer ways of keeping the population divided without turning them into acolytes of a foreign adversary.
Combine that with the fact that China and Russia are even bigger Echo Chambers than the United Statesever was. The fact there was even debate about Banning Tick Tock no matter how stupid the decision in the end was. Just proves it.
Whatever influence operation they’re pushing domestically will largely be through TV and radio. Anything they do over the internet is going to meet far higher diminishing returns and require far more effort. They are absolutely still doing it. But they’re spending much more time defending against it than employing it themselves.
But they do it for a reason. For a purpose. Not just for funsies. I don’t see how them spreading misinformation weakening themselves is a logical goal. This is what you are arguing for. You need to support this. And the quote you just quoted does not
No. But thak you for the contribution of your strawman. You gonna try to actually respond to anything I said? Or just going to continue to damage your position?
But but but! It’s always been the Democrats and Republicans fault. Even though it’s always been this way. Even before recent changes in both parties. Even though it was this way before those parties even existed! /s
Very little. It’s largely a Congress thing. They decide who gets aid, how much, and where the funding comes from. Biden absolutely could do better with messaging. And his leadership has not done him many favors either. However, short of enacting war powers etc. There’s very little that the executive branch can do directly. Which makes so much of the ire Biden is getting misplaced and suspicious.
He should do better. So should the people hyperfixating on him.
I’d say it’s unpopular because we have a lot of evidence to the contrary. We know for a fact that a large amount of traffic on Twitter and other social media sites are bots. We know for a fact that many political actors are paid. The problem is the people complaining about it most tend to be the ones who use them the most. Casting aspersions against those who don’t. All in an effort to confuse and muddy the waters so no one questions their use.
The same for fake news. People crying about the most are the ones who put out the most. That doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. Even if the accusations are often false
Realistically any group would be foolish not to take advantage of something like Bots or AI to help Drive their message. Even if it’s true.
We should just never take anyone screaming accusations at face value though.
That’s non sequitur. And doesn’t really even pass basic critical thinking tests. The government which has outsized control of all television radio and print media in the United States. Is really spending that much time and effort to propagandize to Americans on an international platform already heavily skewed fascist and right wing? Just because they ran ML off doesn’t mean it was some sort of government psyop. A lot of people even on the left. Don’t like Marxist leninists for good reasons.
Social media is one of the current best vectors for finding influence in the United states. If the US government really is using it to propagandize the people. They’re doing such a poor job of it I don’t think we really have anything to worry about from our governments propagandizing at all.
Nearly half the American voting population has a more favorable outlook on a foreign fascist dictator than they do our own president. And a large chunk of that current government is actively seeking to hurt American Allies and destroy the country’s power at large. Talk about a propaganda fail.
No the more likely explanation is that they’re pissing against a tide of a foreign misinformation. And having just about as much success as pissing against the ocean.