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RL_Dane, to random
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Aaaaand that .xlsx just ballooned to 220MiB

, what are you doing? XD

RL_Dane,
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@Wyndix

Yeah. I did a Save As... and it scrunched back down to about 300k 😄

RL_Dane,
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@benjaminhollon

I haven't tried that because I have to collab with an Excel user (OOXML as a "sTaNdArD," lol)

Save As... got it back down to sub-megabyte size.

Probably just a lot of crazy undo history, I dunno

gianni, to random
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@wb @RL_Dane Does JXL not have any directional prediction or shared data between blocks? How does it handle generation loss so well?

I assumed the VarDCT built on every coding technique that previous DCT variants used, although I’m not well versed in what those were & I may be off base

RL_Dane,
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@gianni @wb

Yeah, early JPEG was pretty exciting. To my knowledge, it was the first GOOD lossy algorithm of any kind -- QuickTime had lossy video codecs, but they were super simple: selectively updating the screen by rather large blocks, but no complex math or DCT AFAIK.
There were lossy audio codecs for voice, but they were pretty rudimentary. Nothing good for full-spectrum audio (music) until MP3.

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RL_Dane,
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@gianni @wb

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I remember waiting minutes to decode a small JPEG on my 8mhz Mac SE. And of course, trying to compress 1-bit images was a miserable experience, so I didn't use it much until I finally got a color machine in '94 ;)

RL_Dane,
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@gianni @wb

Isn't HEIC basically just still-image-h264/5?
If so, the video encoding hardware could be utilized for sure.

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@wb @gianni

Ahh, that makes sense. I wouldn't have thought that encoders would be more economical (because of increased complexity of encoding vs decoding), but the point about not having to support such a wide range of possible algorithms makes a lot of sense.

That also explains why cameras record to relatively high bitrates -- not just for best possible quality, but possibly also so that the encoding can be a bit simpler/"faster."

RL_Dane,
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@wb @gianni

Yes, I remember waiting quite a while for GIFs to load -- even progressive (interlaced?? I forget the right term) GIFs weren't that much help.

I wish I still had it, but someone took a "digital" photo of me way back in 1992 with a Kodak Xapshot camera at a Mac Users' Group meeting in Austin.

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RL_Dane,
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@wb @gianni

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The camera wasn't actually digital, it recorded onto a video disc, but it got digitized when you connected it to your computer for "upload." IIRC, you actually needed a video capture card to digitize the photos, but I can't remember for sure. ^___^

RL_Dane,
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@gianni @wb

I have a batch_de-heic script that calls convert to deal with pictures from others' iPhones 😆

I might see if convert can handle JXL. File size is definitely more important than quality for the purposes of these particular photos.

RL_Dane,
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@gianni @wb

That definitely explains why a phone can encode h265 in realtime while really aggressive settings on an hour-long video can take a day to transcode on even a fast CPU. :D

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  • RL_Dane,
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    @vwbusguy

    has a GUI builder?!? 🤯

    @nlarson830 @NanoRaptor @qb64

    RL_Dane,
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    RL_Dane, to random
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    🍎 File Edit View Special

    You can have my menubars when you pry them out of my cold, dead hands 😂

    kYou

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    @fu @topher

    Good points, although that only confirms my sad suspicion that smartphones have ruined computing. :'(

    RL_Dane,
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    @topher @fu

    It's so sad.
    I'm imagining what smartphones could be like today if the iToy never happened.
    Physical buttons, extensive and flexible mobile OSes, non-stupefied userbase.
    And most of all, no destruction of desktop UIs to make it look like a 23" iFad.

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    RL_Dane, to random
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    Me in 2013: Oooh, that new phone/laptop looks so amazing!!
    Me in 2023: Egad, what abomination will they foist on us this year? :P~

    RL_Dane,
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    @teamtuck @teamtuck

    I mean, it's a sliding scale. You have to decide where you want to sit on it. Nobody is totally pragmatic, and nobody is totally idealistic.

    You have to go with your conscience. ✌🏼

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