TokenBoomer

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TokenBoomer,

I am really slow, so thanks for taking the time. But, let’s say you’re a socialist, and both candidates are capitalists. So you decide that neither candidate upholds your interests. How would any “encouragement” to vote change your mind?

In the case where neither candidate represents your political positions, not voting is an act of rebellion.

TokenBoomer,

So, you’re okay with not having a clean conscience? Or, other voters should be okay with not having a clear conscience? If Biden winning is more important to you than having a clean conscience. Vote for him. But don’t pressure people that choose to have a clear conscience.

Unless thought police is on your bucket list.

TokenBoomer,

Rebellion? I don’t like hearing such a word from you," Ivan said with feeling. “One cannot live by rebellion, and I want to live. Tell me straight out, I call on you–answer me: imagine that you yourself are building the edifice of human destiny with the object of making people happy in the finale, of giving them peace and rest at last, but for that you must inevitably and unavoidably torture just one tiny creature, that same child who was beating her chest with her little fist, and raise your edifice on the foundation of her unrequited tears–would you agree to be the architect on such conditions? Tell me the truth.”
“No, I would not agree,” Alyosha said softly.
“And can you admit the idea that the people for whom you are building would agree to accept their happiness on the unjustified blood of a tortured child, and having accepted it, to remain forever happy?”
"No, I cannot admit it.

Fyodor Dostoyevsky — The Brothers Karamazov

TokenBoomer,

Then you shouldn’t care how people vote.

TokenBoomer,

It’s my fault Biden won’t declare his intentions to stop the genocide. I’m to blame everybody. My vote has doomed us all. The horror.

TokenBoomer,

Seems like more from the other Groups should have voted with C, or C shouldn’t have been given the option to find a better source for food.

TokenBoomer,

Then it is the fault of the electoral system and not the voters.

TokenBoomer,

Group C is not complicit for being honest.

TokenBoomer,

That’s what the duopoly system wants you to do. Blame other voters when it doesn’t give you better candidates.

TokenBoomer,

That’s a lot of words to say you are okay with genocide. I’m not gonna castigate voters for voting against a candidate that enables it. Maybe I’ll change my mind once I get to middle school. It depends on how long recess is.

TokenBoomer,

If you’re okay with people voting their conscience, then you can’t be upset when they do that. If you are upset when they don’t vote your way, that’s the policing of thought.

TokenBoomer, (edited )

Hypothetically, I think there would be no difference than what is occurring now. The rhetoric from his administration would be more belligerent though. If you take the genocide out of the equation, Biden is clearly the better choice. Unfortunately, it is part of the equation.

TokenBoomer,

I only eat happy meals.

TokenBoomer,

I’m voting for Biden. But if he loses, I won’t blame voters like you for berating fellow citizens for wrongthink, and depressing voter turnout. I’ll blame the duopoly system for giving us shitty candidates.

TokenBoomer,

Biden should maybe, talk about that.

TokenBoomer, (edited )

Trump and the other Republicans will say a lot, but they aren’t going to act any different than what Biden and Blinken are already doing with Palestine. The only difference is the symbolic language the Democrats use to assuage their voters. What are they going to do, send more arms and money faster?

TokenBoomer, (edited )

Definition of complicit denotes otherwise. If making the right choice is unpopular, that doesn’t make you complicit with another choice. You’re conflating the two choices. Why is it Group C’s fault the other groups can’t get their shit together. Stop bullying people to vote the way you want. It makes you look weak.

TokenBoomer, (edited )

People who are choosing not to vote for Biden are doing so because of a genocide that is happening NOW. You want to question them on contingent hypothetical real world results of a Trump presidency that may, or may not, happen in the FUTURE.

You’re trying to scare voters by telling them a dragon 🐉 is outside, when a venomous hydra is already in the room with them.

You’re concern trolling and “just asking questions,” it reeks of desperation.

TokenBoomer,

The, “Biden is bad, but Trump will be worse,” argument is tired. It’s not working, and may be actively making voters dislike Biden more.

TokenBoomer,

Most voters are retrospective voters. They aren’t as concerned with the future as they are with the present and past.

TokenBoomer,

You seem to have honorable intentions, but these exchanges are argumentum ad nauseam.

If you have to tell people why they should vote against Trump, instead of why they should vote for Biden, then he’s already lost.

TokenBoomer,

Sure.

Unlike voters in many other industrialized countries, Americans tend to vote from this “retrospective” perspective. Studies show that Americans view elections – especially presidential ones – as a referendum on the past performance of an officeholder, a political party or the current administration.

TokenBoomer,

It doesn’t help that each day he gets older.

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