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dope,

So, semantically speaking, it can’t exist. Ok.

dope,

Congratulations faithful one. These 72 pure and virginal manta-rays are yours to plow.

dope,

Sorry if that was trite. I was going off your “If we knew what it was then it wouldn’t be the afterlife” thing.

dope,

That is arguable.

Any exploration into strange realms of life, memory or consciousness (and there have been many of those) might shed useful light on the subject for speculation.

dope,

There might even be multiple worlds.

And maybe a “soul” can be divided.

dope, (edited )

I’m looking for the connection between copies.

My copy lives forever. How does that bear upon me?

There’s got to be a connection between identical systems. That just feels right. A kind of perfect sympathy. And add consciousness to the mix and it seems inevitable.

And given that there will always be infinite cases of total entropy reversal, there will always be a “plausible narrative” for resurrection available for every corpse. So if “immortality via copy” doesn’t do it, that will.

Here are 2 authors who explored the impossibility of subjective death. IE while everybody else sees you die, you actually travel to a universe where your survival is explained by a plausible narrative (and progressively less plausible). Or thereabouts.

GREG EGAN. Permutation city. He called it “dust theory”

ROBERT CHARLES WILSON. Divided by Infinity (in “The Perseids and other stories”). I forget what he called the theory.

dope, (edited )

I think that psycho might be us.

When you dream at night your dreams tend to take the form of your fears, obsessions, desires, hangups, big emotions etc. But you return. The physical world could be called a moderator. It keeps you from descending too far into your personal dreamworld.

But then you die. Same dreamworld, but no moderation. You troll yourself to exhaustion. Might take a million years. Then the physical world draws your attention again, or something.

In greek mythology there’s a forest in the afterlife. Each tree is a soul locked in a catatonic dream-passion. Each fugued out in his personal hallucination. The forest is vast.

dope, (edited )

A natural internet maybe. Discarnate dreamers drifting around, talking, looking for fun, spaceless, bodiless, timeless. Until a really good game catches your eye. And then there are rules.

dope,

Thank you. I will look them up.

dope,

Philip Jose Farmer explored this idea in a few of his stories.

In one there was an alien race. They thought it was tragic that people would die and be gone from the world forever. So they invented an artificial soul (called a “wathan”) and hooked it up to all the sentient beings. Then they managed an artificial afterlife too. Reincarnated everybody.

dope,

Just started watching it. Presently at s01e03

dope,

I appreciate the idea, and do have some experience with that, but these days I prefer Vipassana meditation.

It’s kind of a manual version of tripping.

It takes practice, slower, smoother, better control, permanent and has no ceiling.

dope,

In the OP I asked for something other than concentrating. But all the replies so far refer to the fruits of concentration.

Like talking about sticking out your index finger, and then talking about all the amazing things that you can poke with it (and yes the horrors of fingercramp etc).

But what else can I do with my hand?

dope,

So you are getting silence, but you are doing it without concentrating.

Well this is exactly the kind of alternative superpower that I’m looking for in my OP question.

Concentration brings silence (and clarity etc), but it also brings some other stuff.

You are getting the silence, but without that other stuff. That’s a big deal.

dope,

Like meditation?

dope,

Yes, one might say that the ADHDers (and the autists, spergs and other similar neurodiverse) have a definite advantage here.

dope,

Like looking up from your phone to notice the clouds.

dope,

His point is that people with ADHD can be especially good at meditation.

You need to address his actual point.

dope,

But what about hyperfocus?

dope,

That is arguable. Depending on the person the control can vary. And with practice (which is what meditation is all about) the control can improve. And meditation (one form anyway) is all about cultivating depth and control. So these people might definitely have a rare and advantageous degree of experience, with the depths at least. So yes, hand and glove.

But that much is either ambiguous or obvious. So wtfe. I swear you people fetishize this shit and its associated victimhood. I blame society.

dope,

do you crave powerlessness?

dope,

Ya but whats an attention-related superpower OTHER than concentration (and its associated powers)?

One guy here was talking about getting high and laying on his hammock.

And the Buddhists have an “alternative to concentration” type meditation technique.

dope,

Ya but what’s something other than concentration that I can do with my attention. A different superpower. That’s what I’m asking.

dope,

“it’s an attention” thing sounds right to me too. Shift of attention = shift of reality. In the small as well as the large.

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