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MelodyCooper, to random
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So, now we’ve got police going to the wrong address and shooting innocent civilians, and white civilians shooting innocent black kids who ring the wrong doorbell. The persistence of hate narratives and shoot-first-ask-questions-later knee jerk reactions show how absolutely dangerous an fueled gun society is. Their answer: More Guns! Because “guns aren’t the problem. People are the problem.” My question: So why in God’s name would you give guns to the problem?

freemo,
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freemo,
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@zack @MelodyCooper @pies

Again you dont use corelation if your doing honest science on this or any topic like it...

freemo,
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@zack @MelodyCooper @pies

Obviously what zack said. The sale of new auto weapons have been illegal in the usa for a very long time. You can only get access to very old antique autoweapons and there are very few of them at all.

It does discredit you when you say stuff like that.

freemo,
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@pies

I havent seen any valid data on the topic from either of you....

@zack @MelodyCooper

freemo,
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@pies @zack @MelodyCooper

I didnt say i was questioning anything... but you two are both disagreeing with eachother and neither of you have provided any sort of high quality data to make either case.

So im just pointing out its kinda odd for you to complain he isnt providing data when you really havent done that yourself either.

freemo,
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@pies @zack @MelodyCooper

No it is specifically.invalid and commented multiple times in the thread why every time you attempted to share invalid data

jaysonmassey, to random
freemo,
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@jaysonmassey and how do we address this in a way that helps address the problem?

freemo,
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@jaysonmassey hb 731 doesnt do what you suggest. It just is a bill that would cause all long rifles to include a trigger lock with sale. So while im not opposed to a proper solution requiring safe storage this bill sadly isnt it.

Hb338 is ok, in theory, but with only a 500$ fine im not sure it really addresses the issue much. But its a start i woukdnt object to it as is.

Hb1080 absolutely not and is IMO a gross violation. Bodily autonomy is a sacred right and that includes suicide. If someone wants to kill themselves they should have that right and the means to potential suicide should not be legally restricted. We shoukd try to provide mental health access and help prevent suicide but in the end everyone has the right to do with their body what they wish.

Hb714 is kinda moot but i have no objections. It only requires long rifle background checks now on private sales. I can support this but its not going to have a huge impact and certainly not going to solve the problems.

These are exactly thr no-real-good but feels good nonsense i come to expect honestly. We could be enacting actual hugely impactful policies like free access to mental health and make some real change. Instead thry want you to have to buy a 10$ trigger lock you can bypass in about 5 minutes and probably wont even get used.

freemo,
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@jaysonmassey what japanese solution? Ba ing guns woukd sig ificantly reduce gun deaths... but also significantly increase stabbings, viokent acts, rape, and other non gun deaths. So describing that as a solution isnt accurate.

freemo,
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@jaysonmassey yes its easier to kill someone witb a gun than a knife, but there are also far more easily accessible ways to kill people more effective than a knife.

5 minutes at a super market and you can get the ingredients for a poison or bomb, both of which kill en mass easier than a gun. So the whole argument falls apart lretty fast.

It also ignores the more important aspect. As a power equalizer it means a woman with a gun is far more likely to defend herself from rape or murder than a woman with a knife. So clearly it can just as easily act to save live as it can to take them. This is why your argument in that aspect is equivelant to the antivaxxer argument. It ignores the big picture.

freemo,
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@jaysonmassey We are talking about guns, and specifically how gun policies like japans do more harm than good in thr big picture.

freemo, to random
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Man the rights obsession with genetalia is getting a bit out of hand...

freemo,
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@JonKramer yes knowing what everyones geneitals looks like is the right wings equivelant of a safe space.

freemo,
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@Pat @JonKramer

People create these issues. Yes they do distract from the actual important issues, but that is the doing of tbe people and their tendency towards absurdity.

freemo,
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@Pat @JonKramei disagree. The people create these issues and dynamics the plurocrats just take advantage of it a d fan the flames to pander and get votes.

oliphant, to random

You don't need no adblocker on Mastodon (or pretty much any fediverse product) because there's no ads.

And you don't need to block trackers or analytics or worry about information about you being sent to third parties.

If you check your adblocker you'll see 0 things. If you check for trackers for the usual suspects: Google, Facebook, etc, which are nearly ubiquitous on the web, you will not find them here at all.

Do you have any idea how rare that is nowadays, especially on a social media platform?

freemo,
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@oliphant of course there are ads, mastodon is riddles with advertising accounts. The reason you dont need an ad blocker is that there is no algorithm that people can exploit to get those ads to target you.

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