gavi

@gavi@lemmynsfw.com

a gay dude. feel free to message, i dont bite! admin of lemmynsfw

if urgent please message via matrix, i will respond faster

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gavi,

It is. It has the same people on it from exploding-heads and is currently linked to nostr.

Any chance to have a separated [PORN] tag to avoid blocking all kind of NSFW posts?

Many NSFW have nothing to do with porn. Sometimes are horror contents, some times are crude images, some times are just lazy people who don’t know of the Spoiler tag. Can we have a quick and easy way to filter off all the (very funny but not alway wanted) Porn posts without locking out those other contents???

gavi,

100% there needs to be a way to block lemmynsfw, I say this even as an admin for it!

gavi,

I think overall a good way would be to add content warnings like other fediverse software and making it so that you can set specific communities to have specific content warnings to be applied.

gavi,

Agreed. There needs to also have more granular federation options (blocking images, forcing NSFW on another instances posts, silence them in c/all, etc etc)

gavi,

You were banned for posting lolicon. We go on a per case basis of what looks too young for drawn content, and what you posted looked far too young by both lemmynsfw standards and lemmy.worlds. It wasn’t subjective opinion, it was pretty clear.

gavi,

Thank you! This is so awesome

gavi,

What porn instances have defederated from each other? None that I know of have.

gavi,

Admin for lemmynsfw here, and I just wanna say that we desperately need instance blocking for lemmy. Or at least some way for instances to be able to restrict NSFW content in /all. Some people do not want to see NSFW content or simply can’t, and that’s more than fine.

gavi,

Absolutely. There needs to ideally be content warnings, or at the very least a distinction between NSFW and pornographic content.

gavi,

Please do!!! It would be so helpful

gavi,

If you see them or anyone spamming on LemmyNSFW, please report them.

gavi,

Does your instance allow nsfw content?

gavi,

I’m not really down with this being presented as drama, it’s unfortunate the way it played out but overall its their choice to defederate. We actively encourage other instances who forbid pornography to defederate from us. Lemmy.ml, sopuli, etc etc we are totally fine with, we have no malice or hate towards them because thats their choice and their reasons and concerns for doing so are more than legitimate especially with how limited lemmy is right now and the locations that they host their site at. We have open discussions with other instance admins and welcome discussions of their potential concerns, it’s just we didn’t really know what the concerns were beyond “this looks wrong because it looks wrong delete it” which made it extremely frustrating to try to figure out concisely what the problem was so we could address it.

My only issue is it being presented as if we are fine with CSAM, when we aren’t and to be accused of that is extremely serious.

gavi,

Admin from LemmyNSFW here, not the one that posted but an admin nonetheless.

I’m not really down with this being presented as drama as some are trying to, it’s unfortunate the way it played out but overall its their choice to defederate. We actively encourage other instances who forbid pornography to defederate from us. Lemmy.ml, sopuli, etc etc we are totally fine with, we have no malice or hate towards them because thats their choice and their reasons and concerns for doing so are more than legitimate especially with how limited lemmy is right now and the locations that they host their site at. We have open discussions with other instance admins and welcome discussions of their potential concerns, it’s just we didn’t really know what the concerns were beyond “this looks wrong because it looks wrong delete it” which made it extremely frustrating to try to figure out concisely what the problem was so we could address it.

My only issue is it being presented as if we are fine with CSAM, when we aren’t and to be accused of that is extremely serious.

gavi, (edited )

I know it may seem like empty platitudes, but I want to make it clear for anyone reading this that our entire team agrees with more native ways in lemmy to block our instance as well as ways for instances to limit our content from federating into the all page. The fact that there is a lack of distinction between NSFW and pornographic content is extremely problematic as well, and ideally long term lemmy will receive content warnings like other activitypub platforms.

Porn isn’t for everyone, but people are going to seek it out regardless. A space such as lemmyNSFW needs to exist to allow the people who seek such content out to be able to do so in a safe and controlled environment that focuses consent as a key principle. And in line with having the key princple being consent, making sure people who do not want to see content from our instance are able to block such content with ease is a no brainer.

Our team has also taken a step back and looked to what critiques there are in regard to our instance, as well as preemptively engaging with other instance admins as well. The conversations being had are important, and we are actively figuring out how to best navigate them.

Also, heres a reply I made 20 days ago to the connect apps comm when a proposal was made to block instances. Where I reiterate what I said above. lemmy.ca/comment/857085

gavi,

It makes me sad, but it is what it is. I’m trying not to take it personally, but it does sting since I am a gay man, and an LGBT focused instance is a lovely idea in my eyes. We do not have a jailbait community, whatsoever. There are concerns about fauxbait that we are actively discussing and navigating. It did bring up a good conversation on that end at least.

gavi,

Thank you and absolutely! Our general ethos for LemmyNSFW is that with the implosion of reddit, it’s inevitable that some adults are going to seek out adult content so making sure its done right is quite important. For the purpose of the growth of the lemmyverse and keeping the community safe, we see it as an opportunity to not only learn from reddits biggest mistakes and make a new community that focuses consent and keeps minors out, but also actually attempts to foster a safe and controlled environment that other federated NSFW communities haven’t really been able to do so as they have almost always turned into a free for all. It’s an uphill battle with the limits of lemmy, but we are working through it and doing the best we can and building tools for ourselves. There isn’t a blueprint for this, we’re learning as volunteers as time goes on.

When it comes to defederation, we truly don’t have issues with instances that defederate with us. There’s no hard feelings, no grudge, not even any ounce of negativity. We respect and honor that choice, and with the limits that lemmy has (especially right now) we understand why instances make that choice. And for the overall benefit and safety of the lemmyverse there needs to be instances that don’t federate with us too. Especially in line with our focus on consent. Ideally, there will be native ways in lemmy to block our instance, restrict our content in all for instances, and the implementations of more detailed content warnings.

I will say that I personally use a different instance for SFW stuff, and I can say that I absolutely adore the people at aussie.zone, sopuli.xyz & feddit.de. The admins and communities at each of those instances are filled to the brim with absolute sweethearts and I have nothing but love and kindness towards them. It makes me sad when people feel there is some weird beef we have with the instances that have us defederated (especially those!), and I hope those instances know we don’t, we fully understand why they do, and we will never push them to refederate with us unless they inquire to us explicitly about thinking about doing so.

Same as above, if we were simply defederated there would have been no hard feelings, it was everything else that was an issue.

18+ do you think it's possible to create a space for pornographic content thats safe for women?

hi, im an admin for lemmynsfw and these past few days our team has implemented a much better and more comprehensive content policy that is more reflective of our values. we’ve been trying to dive deeper into our core ethos as a community these past few weeks, and we decided focusing consent as a key guiding principle would be...

gavi,

That might be the best way to go. I think people are still quite averse to lemmy still though. :/

gavi,

Admin for lemmynsfw here, you are mixing things up a bit. vlemmy (an instance that mysteriously disappeared recently after defederating from a instance thats hosts lolicon) was the Irish one. lemmynsfw.com has changed policy’s recently to make a healthier community, maintain federation with other instances, and generally figure things out for the better with lemmys limited software.

Either way, you can browse pornlemmy communities and lemmynsfw communities between each other since we federate with each other. All that matters is that right now those seem to be the only current NSFW instances attempting to operate responsibly and legally, to my present knowledge at least.

Is anyone else more than a little disappointed that the rampant misogyny, objectification, and "whataboutmen-ism" seems to have followed the reddit migration here?

I was just reading a discussion on another community where the OP was complaining about a lack of NSFW content being readily available. It was really demoralizing to see him bemoaning the fact that the female/femme members of the fediverse don’t seem to be lining up to disrobe for his amusement. It’s just frustrating to see...

gavi,

admin here for lemmynsfw, it’s been annoying as hell having to weed thru the spam reports. we had to make a pinned announcement posting saying if people keep reporting content creators who post their links in the majority of communities that are fine with it, we are going to have to start taking action. it’s just ridiculous.

gavi,

It’s been interesting that’s for sure but we’re doing our best :)

gavi,

Admin for lemmynsfw here, I just wanted to chime in that I 100% agree and feel that this is a feature that needs be baked into lemmy as a software overall. People who do not want to see pornography need to be able to block it in some way at the very least. There also does need to be an overall differentiation between NSFW content and pornography as well, since it feels particularly problematic to not have a distinction between the two. I think it is likely that content warnings will come to lemmy though, but we will see. Our back-end team is currently working to figure this out to identify our specific needs as an instance, but it’s an uphill battle. Hopefully connect developers add this feature at least to provide a temporary fix, and I hope other app devs follow suit.

gavi,

I am sorry to see you go. As I explained, our desire was not to try to create an air of seeming anti-kink. Lemmy is a growing platform with limitations, and we are having to make hard choices to work with such limitations. I hope that you find a digital community you feel more comfortable in, and I am sorry that it is not here.

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