The Galaxy class starship was designed with the ability to separate the saucer from the stardrive section, so that the "floating city" part of the ship could be left somewhere safe while the rest of the ship galavants off to do something risky. We see this happen precisely once, in the season one episode Arsenal of Freedom. We...
A lot of the focus here seems to be on the military utility, which is also how I suppose the separation feature was presented in the show.
But an obvious use case would probably have been less dramatic. Anytime two things needed to be done at the same time. Send the drive section to the more distant or dangerous location and keep the saucer where it’s safer, like running supplies or something for a planet.
Don’t know it would have been good TV though?! Perhaps if it was used as a plot device to put the ship in trouble?
It might be big enough to work as a temporary small space station around a planet or just in some general area in need like a fleet in need of repairs and medical aid.
Yep ... I was thinking of that episode when I wrote the post. Unfortunately I don't have a clear enough memory of it to get into details, and I might find you to be right on a re-watch.
Nonetheless, my memory of the episode is that it wasn't really about anything "ethically meaty". It might have been enjoyable or interesting, but it seemed primarily character driven, inline with your summary of it (Burnham's character especially and the dynamic of her immaturity, stubbornness and determination/ambition), which would mean it isn't really relevant to my thoughts or as a contrast with SNW S2E2 ... ?
But I'm not just talking about ethics, but the delivery of Sci-Fi/Star Trek drama about ethics. I don't think any of the cited examples dug into their issues in the same way, and for me, as well, with the exception of the Vance-Osyraa negotiation (that was wonderful!) ... and all I'm trying to do is use the episode to articulate, even for myself, why I feel the way I do about Discovery.
Thanks! I don’t have clear memories of that episode, but what you describe rings true. I literally just rewatched Disco S1E3 … and was I like “I forgot about the tardigrade!!” when it showed up.
Relatedly, Disco, and IMO Picard, have oddly underrated first seasons which may actually be the shows’ best, with deeper problems, for some fans, coming in as the show goes.
::: spoiler Logline Commander Una Chin-Riley faces court-martial along with possible imprisonment and dishonorable dismissal from Starfleet, and her defense is in the hands of a lawyer who’s also a childhood friend with whom she had a terrible falling out. :::...
::: spoiler Discovery critical perspective So I’m not the biggest fan of Discovery. I would say I’ve found it a disappointment.
I don’t want to convince anyone here of this or even get into the arguments, in part because there’s still a lot I’ve liked about the show!
What I did want to talk about, just in case anyone finds it interesting or agrees … is that this episode feels like a perfect demonstration of what Discocery was missing. Sure, using a court trial as a vehicle is a bit tropy, but for a reason, it works. The story and premise of the trial, while not particularly deep or even well rooted in character, worked.
It made sense, had human and political plot elements to it and was delivered well, most importantly … all of which is what, IMO, Discovery often lacked and instead would often just cross the line into being on nose.
I don’t want to be negative against Discovery here. It is what it is and has its fans.
Just want to express as someone who didn’t vibe with Discovery that this is what was missing for me, and I’m very pleased to have SNW. :::
But in contrast, this lawyer (Neera) won by mainly by being a good lawyer (albeit in a tv legal drama kind of way). Setting things on fire with the first witness to create a bunch of fog and doubt about the premise of the case, realising that other important regulations impinge on the case and setting up testimony to substantiate the effect of those regulations.
My memory of most other officer-lawyers is that their methods tend to focus more on the moral "issyew" (Picard's pronunciation of "issue" in Measure of a Man).
So, lemmy seems to be flooded with spam bot accounts at the moment. Look through the table of servers on fedidb (https://fedidb.org/software/lemmy) and notice how there are these huge instances without any active users (MAU)....
You have a point, especially as lemmy defines "active" as a user that has at least posted once within the relevant time period. So yes, lurkers definitely wouldn't count toward the active user count (mastodon and the like use different metrics AFAIU).
To say Discovery has been "controversial" would be something of an understatement. From the very beginning the show sparked off considerable debate about it's quality, and the bevy of showrunner changes and resulting shifts in tone and plot choices just adds an extra layer of confusion. Many of the same groups and same people...
It’s funny. It seems there’s an inversion with this compared to TNG era trek, where the first season is often a write off.
I agree with you and feel the same way about Picard S1. Something about how streaming era TV is run, at least with the particular mood and aspiration that Star Trek has, seems to benefit from the pre-production planning, and suffer under the loss of season to season production.
Does an admin or something want to make "first contact"?
She probably doesn't know this place or lemmy exists, and if she wants to post here, like all mastodon users, could maybe do with a pointer or two (but also a warning about following this community unless she's ok with a firehose on her feed, which she might be).
Generally any platform will have a way to work out what to do with the direct link that goes straight to the original instance of a user of their post, which is why that's what I provided.
No. Lemmy doesn’t allow you to follow mastodon accounts or any personal accounts, incl lemmy accounts, for that matter. Similarly, following a lemmy community from mastodon, while possible, generally doesn’t work well.
Kbin provides parallel interfaces to both threaded and microblog content that works well.
Generally though, it’s an unsolved problem trying to unify the whole fediverse into a single interface.
It will be interesting to see if lemmy will evolve to enable some sort of user based following. At the moment, keeping things simple with community subscriptions is part of how lemmy is developed.
Yea, in general, it seems it was really just part of the whole season 1 shitiness and the crappy politics behind it.
I did a rewatch of the early TNG seasons not long ago and recall it being fairly obvious that even though S3 is "when it gets good", there was a notable difference between seasons 1 and 2 with S2 being clearly underrated. I think S2 is more up and down, with episodes probably as bad as s1 (like the finale, but that's unfair) but also with episodes clearly better. I would guess that it was S2 that kept the show alive.
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Why was the Galaxy class saucer separation ability so rarely used?
The Galaxy class starship was designed with the ability to separate the saucer from the stardrive section, so that the "floating city" part of the ship could be left somewhere safe while the rest of the ship galavants off to do something risky. We see this happen precisely once, in the season one episode Arsenal of Freedom. We...
Watching SNW S2E2, I couldn’t help but contrast it with Discovery … my thoughts.
Reposting this from the SNW S2E2 thread as it was removed by a mod for being “off topic”....
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::: spoiler Logline Commander Una Chin-Riley faces court-martial along with possible imprisonment and dishonorable dismissal from Starfleet, and her defense is in the hands of a lawyer who’s also a childhood friend with whom she had a terrible falling out. :::...
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So, lemmy seems to be flooded with spam bot accounts at the moment. Look through the table of servers on fedidb (https://fedidb.org/software/lemmy) and notice how there are these huge instances without any active users (MAU)....
The first nine episodes of Discovery are a model for what streaming era Star Trek should have looked like
To say Discovery has been "controversial" would be something of an understatement. From the very beginning the show sparked off considerable debate about it's quality, and the bevy of showrunner changes and resulting shifts in tone and plot choices just adds an extra layer of confusion. Many of the same groups and same people...
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Just in case you didn't know ... she's on mastodon, has probably been here longer than you, and is active (she once actually replied to me!!!!!)....
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