mumei

mumei, 3 months ago

You will have to look at the second hand market for sure, but you can probably get a decent 1080p 80-100fps medium/high build.

Something like (or equivalent):

Ryzen 5 3600

RX 6600

16GB DDR4

1TB SSD (probably not NVMe)

Whatever case

Whatever monitor, even if only 60Hz, for now

Whatever MoBo

Tier A PSU from the Cultists Network PSU tier list

You can most likely get everything used if you buy from a second hand shop that has a form of buyer protection (eBay and similar) and thoroughly check and clean and test everything you buy

mumei, 3 months ago

EoD has offline coop?

we removed the EoD version and some of the EoD features need to go back (offline co-op for example)

Not that it matters too much, as playing only against bots isn’t what EFT is good for, in my opinion

mumei, 3 months ago

I see, thank you!

Gating it behind EoD was already not great, since it’s no progression and all, but now asking a price for it…? Unless it’s a trivial amount, like $2, I really can’t see why would anyone pay for it. A real raid would be better in all conceivable ways, except the stress of course. You can acquire map knowledge on your own oflline raid, ad PvP against friends, while useful to an extent, without the actual risk of losing your gear won’t be as good as real PvP.

mumei, 3 months ago

Haven’t seen this mentioned, but did you make sure to plug the display cable into the GPU and not the MoBo?

edit: nvm, just saw a comment with same suggestion

mumei, 4 months ago

About RAM, Trident Z5 NEO @ 6000Mhz seems to be the best price/performance ratio.

About GPU, I’d personally go for a Sapphire as they’re one of the historic AIB for AMD GPUs and I also dig a lot the design of the Nitro+ lol

See if you can save something on the MoBo (by getting a lower trim) and 2x2TB might be a bit overkill for gaming only (ofc it depends on your habits, but I personally don’t have games installed for more than 500-600GB). Also, you picked two PCIe 4.0 NVMEs, so maybe consider a 970 Evo Plus if it’s cheaper than the 980 Pro

About cooler, I’d prefer an old fashioned air cooler simply because it can’t leak lol

mumei, 4 months ago

Nitro+ worth it?

I guess not for that much more. A 10% increase is substantial, and I don’t think the difference in actual performance is enough to justify it; but you also said that your region can get toasty in summer, and the Nitro+ has better cooling which could help. I don’t think the Pulse will get too hot to work, but it may be something to consider!

DDR5

Those are one of the best performance to price ratio, and they’re very inexpensive for what they are (plus full support for AMD overclocking, EXPO I think it’s called); you can also go higher frequency, but prices will go up as well.

cooler

Good call then, AIO will probably perform a bit better with extreme high ambient temps

970

All good, a 970 Evo Plus might be cheaper so why not!

5.0

Yeah, there’s no way gaming will saturate PCIe 5.0 anytime soon, no need to pay premium for specs you won’t benefit from

Happy building and gaming!

mumei, 5 months ago

Yeah, I know, I feel the same for the most part, but I’m definitely itching for some more DJMax, I have hundreds of hours on the PSP games, and there isn’t really anything else like it. Guess I’ll have to pass though and keep consuming my PSP haha why did they have to make it always online, makes me sad

mumei, 5 months ago

Thanks for the reply!

player speed

Tried that already, since GAMMA allows to modify it straight from the mod menu, but I can’t go too low with character movespeed otherwise it feels very unnatural.

steam discussion

Thanks, even though that’s for SoC and CS I also agree that it should be very similar for Anomaly as well. I’ll check that out later, hopefully nothing breaks haha

mumei, 5 months ago

That sounds like good practice, thanks!

mumei, 6 months ago

No I don’t, I wrote it in the OP haha unless there’s a way to know it by looking up the S/N. Have to check.

How can you be so sure they’re older? They were sold to me as new and they did come in the usual sealed plastic wrap.

Anyway I don’t think saving some money is worth more than a full warranty, so I’m basically set on returning them and get something else

mumei, 6 months ago (edited 6 months ago)

I was a bit off, they were 15% cheaper than the Ironwolf on the same website/from same seller (156, not USD, vs 179, not USD).

For a better comparison, I went to WD’s official store and for what I spent on these two 8TB Exos (312, not USD) I can get two 4TB Red Plus (310, not USD). Can’t make a direct comparison with other Seagates because their “buy now” section redirects me to Amazon, which, as you said, is not the best since they allowed third party sellers, but on there the 8TB Ironwolf is 250 (!!).

As you already know, I’m not in the US so I can’t buy from there. Unfortunately, Seagate’s “buy now” section (which should be official retailers) brings me to either Amazon or other chains that don’t have much else besides portable drives.

At this point I have two options, really: try again the same online store (which is kinda like Amazon, many third party sellers), but getting Ironwolf, which should be more likely to be “legit”, and of course check them as well when they arrive, or settle for two 4TB WD Red Plus (which isn’t ideal as I’m already nearing 2.5TB total, but should allow me to get by a while longer) bought directly from WD.

edit: looking at the link you provided, I paid 30% less for my Exos. Would that sway you towards keeping it without warranty (apart from the seller’s, which is one year I think)? Mind that I don’t need enterprise-grade drives, and I think even NAS drives are overkill for my needs. For example a WD Blue with its 55TBW per year might be enough for me (that’s 150GB a day everyday for a year, which is above my average writes), but those don’t come big enough (I need 6TB min to be comfortable) nevermind, they do come in 8TB size, just at a lower spinning speed (5640rpm), but they cost more (267) than the Ironwolf, and are SMR and have 128MB cache. Sounds like a bad deal!

mumei, 6 months ago

Actually, I found something: “DOM: 07JUN2022”. I guess that’s “Date of Manufacturing”?

mumei, 6 months ago

That’s fair, I paid three times as much though so I do care a bit more haha

mumei, 6 months ago

Sorry for late reply, app kept saying “this account os being verified” and I coulnd’t comment or anything else.

In the end I decided to keep them, considering the store provides warranty! Loving the gigantic storage amount I have now haha

mumei, 6 months ago

Sorry for late reply, app kept saying “this account is being verified” and I coulnd’t comment or anything else.

Anyways, I kept them. One drive loss won’t be catastrophic (got two mirrored and also spare backup), so I decided to go for it!

mumei, 7 months ago

Agree, I stopped buying Sony games because of that

mumei, 7 months ago

I saw W11 in action on a different PC and that made me stay on W10. In the meantime, I researched Linux and dipped my toes in it for a while. Just made PoP! _OS my daily driver (installed on my main NVME), with much less pain than I thought, while I moved W10 on a secondary, old and small SSD, only for those games that don’t work in Proton/Wine.

It is a bit difficult to learn everything from scratch, but it’s a small price to pay, to be honest

mumei, 7 months ago

I feel the pain: began my Linux journey some four months ago, tried Ubuntu first, played with it a bit for a couple days, abandoned it; then tried PoP!_OS, got it up and running, broke it, wiped it; tried again and it finally clicked! I’m now dailying it, and it’s been pretty good so far!

Keep trying without forcing yourself, maybe try different distros depending on what you need!

mumei, 7 months ago

Since you already got your answer (separate cables are safer), I’m absolutely loving the fit. Gigantic GPU and coolers inside small cases are the bane of my existence. I’m also about to shove a 7900XT into a Meshify C, plus I’m sporting a Dark Rock Pro 4 haha and I really like the way it looks

mumei, 7 months ago

I’m sorry about your experience! I actually have an IronWolf, a small 2TB one, and it’s been a year without issues. I don’t write big amounts of data daily on it though, so my experience might be different.

Good luck with your replacement though!

mumei, 7 months ago (edited 7 months ago)

Apologies for the wall of text

Not at all, rather thank you!

I researched again for parts and, whichever way I go, it’s all very expensive.

The “cheaper” options are still expensive considered the lack of expandability: I can get, for example, two 3.5" 4TB drives for around 90-100 each, or, slightly better, two 2.5" 4TB drives for around 120-130 each; the 2.5" drives would allow me to get rid of the HDD cage in my PC and mount a fan in its place. Either way, 8TB (actually 4TB + mirrored backup) for 200-250, and I can’t expand it further.

Slightly more expensive: a one drive Synology NAS, for around 300 (including a 4TB HDD, bought separately); again, locked with no further scaling possible.

Then, a two drives Synology NAS, for 450-500 (including two 4TB drives, bought separately), no scaling. But it’s getting closer to my needs.

Finally, a four drives Synology NAS, definitely fitting for my needs, which is 500 not including drives; once I add storage, for example just two 8TB drives (to which I’d add another two down the road), I’m close to 800 (and this is by getting the cheapest 8TB drive I can find, nothing with “NAS” in the name haha).

Shucking isn’t really a financially good option, it looks like, since external drives are actually more expensive in my country.

tiny case

Well, the Node 304 can hold six drives. Realistically, that should be enough for me even if I decide to have two backups (so using two drives for storage and then the other four just to back up those two) and even if I get 8TB drives (at the moment I have just shy of 3TB of data and I think i can easily add another 2TB onto it, but further than that… not sure). Worst case scenario changing only the case is pretty painless, especially if I can sell the old one to buy the larger one.

gpu

Yeah, I know I can get an APU, issue is, with that MoBo I picked only PRO APUs support ECC RAM. For what I understand, ECC RAM, while not mandatory, is highly recommended. The data I have is not vital, but if I can avoid corruption and having to download it again, I’d rather do so. To be fair, I’m currently not using ECC RAM and I haven’t encountered data corruption in the past two or three years… so I’m a bit torn on this point now

your config

That’s a very expensive motherboard, wow! I can’t find it for less than 350! Definitely over budget for me at the moment

larger case for my current setup

This is definitely something I’ll consider, at least as a stopgap until I can build a proper NAS. This way would allow me to have many drives and I could also repurpose the ones I already have.

I think I’ll have to put this project on hold for now haha but thanks for the huge help, I’ll definitely watch that video in the meantime!

Thanks again!

edit: looks like I can shave off another 100 from the planned build, since I can get a CPU (Ryzen 5 2600) and a 550W PSU for free. Which is actually not bad. Remove one stick of RAM, since 8GB should be enough, and I can save another 30, bringing the total to around 500. Not that bad as a start! Actually, bring that back to 600, since it would make more sense to get 8TB drives since I’m already around 3TB. Still, saved money is money saved haha

mumei, 7 months ago

Thanks a lot for all the help! You’ve been very patient and helpful, I appreciate that! Have a nice day!