ArumiOrnaught

@ArumiOrnaught@kbin.social
ArumiOrnaught,

I hope you understand "burning it all down" includes millions of people.

ArumiOrnaught,

What? Nazis have been doing this since their creation. This isn't something that just started because Israel wants to do a "totally not genocide trust me bro".

Honestly I'm glad they're dumb enough to use spray paint on the side of the Holocaust museum...again. It's easy enough to clean and they're not destroying anything.

This happens so often I had to double check it was a new article.

As long as Nazis exist Jewish people will always be the target of their bigotry. So I guess I don't understand where you are coming from.

ArumiOrnaught,

I don't disagree with you, and as a queer person believe me when I say I do understand how media coverage puts a target on your back.

The one part I do disagree with is the people need to be reminded. Like imagine walking up to David Duke and reminding him that Jewish people are his neighbors. While I want to watch that, I don't think it would end well. How's that one meme go? There are two races, white and political. Two genders, male and political. Two religions. Etc etc. I dislike the "need to remind" because the implications is that it's fine to not be normalized. I know that's probably not what you're going for, but small things like that do matter. Like when someone threatens to kill me I can just add that to the pile, but when someone I know says they're "normal" it just means I'm excluded, part of a permanent out group. That makes me leagues more upset.

ArumiOrnaught,

The need to remind people is a certain lack of care of the people needing reminded. Like reminding people "hey don't drink and drive" I honestly don't think that helps out much. I feel like cigarettes packaging outside US does actually help though.

For example: if someone with a fundamentalist church was harassing me, would I rather my boss protect me, or them say "it's not a big deal". How many times do you need reminding to not drink a drive. I'm sure they know to not do it, but at the root of it they don't care. Reminding them won't change anything.

Don’t you think cishet...gay... lesbian

Ayy you're doing the thing :D I'm none of them, I'm also mostly just ribbing you. 3 types of Jewish people: Rabbi's, Brooklyn mom's, and John Stewart.

Now imagine if they also think your allegiance is to another nation.

Sure, maybe not another nation. But actively trying to destroy 'merica to create a "gay nation". I 100% believe people act differently, but I believe that's something they don't believe in. Where your situation I can see people believing in that, which is worse.

Let me rephrase my first attempt. "Do you think treating the symptoms will help fix the root problems or at least help the pain? Are you wasting time/effort/mental bandwidth on something that ultimately won't help? Is there a better way of dealing with this?" And those are honest questions. You do have a different situation than me.

ArumiOrnaught,

You give me a mild insult, one that I'm used to, and even the "in group" I'm a part of on the Internet also will make similar jokes about themselves. Then I just repeated what you said to me but applied to you.

You're mad at a mirror. And if you wanted me to believe you then you wouldn't have done it a second time.

ArumiOrnaught,

I said I was queer and you then list "cishet, gay, lesbian" and some tropes associated with them. Then do one of the funniest unintentional trope for what I am, which would be bi erasure.

You going 'the three sexualities are het,gay, lesbian' made me think of the one meme of "ah yes the [number] genders".

For whatever reason I cannot upload files otherwise I would attach the memes for you. Image search "ah yes the 3 genders" should turn it up for you though.

Me saying that stuff, wasn't me trying to be insulting. It was showing that I know what you're talking about. But it wasn't an attack. Definitely close to seeing a coworker slightly tired and saying something like "you look like you're ready to run a marathon."

ArumiOrnaught,

Don’t you think cishet people

Saying you know I'm not cishet

gay men go mincing around

Swing one

lesbians are super butch

Swing two

When did I say there were any number of genders

Look at the first line in my response. CIS so you did bring up genders. Then later you got 3 things wrong, which reminded me of a meme where they get 3 things wrong. "You going 'the three sexualities are het,gay, lesbian' made me think of the one meme"

You are just lying and I don’t know why.

You're so ready to win a competition that only you are a part of. I'm trying to have a talk and you want to fight.

ArumiOrnaught,

How old are you? I'm in my 30's and a mechanic. If you don't even attempt to understand someone different then why are you talking so much on the Internet? I was referencing baseball because you said you were American.

I haven't lied, I said I'm queer and your next response switched over to saying effectively "when cishet people groups you like this doesn't it make you mad?"

And I will accuse you of insulting me. You obviously did, and you're doing it more and more. From my perspective for no good reason.

ArumiOrnaught,

me - "I'm queer"
You - "Gay people be like"

So when someone brings something up about themselves, and then you go and talk about that thing it's up to the other person...to be psychic? If you just want to monologue then I recommend starting a YouTube channel. This spat has nothing to do with my ego.

ArumiOrnaught,

I never tried to make you care. I was using that experience of becoming a monolith as a way to relate to you.

ArumiOrnaught,

They called me a liar and said my ego is over inflated. How is that not an attack on my person?

This went downhill because I explained to them that what they did something to me is less than a paper cut, but I brought it up because they lumped me in a group I'm not a part of, the thing they were complaining about. I was calling them a hypocrite, not that my feelings were hurt.

ArumiOrnaught,

You really need to look in a mirror more.

You started this by lumping me into a group I'm not a part of, the thing you were complaining about. And I then just repeated it back at you, but with your character. If you don't like it then don't do it.

ArumiOrnaught,

me - "I'm x"
you - talks about thing involving x

I'm willing to say you just lucked wrong. But it is fairly reasonable to say that the average person would assume you're talking about them. People aren't psychic.

Then on the scale of how you took my response apparently a smiley face means this is the 'worst iteration of anger'? And apparently ribbing means 'stabbing you as hard as I can', and not 'you did the thing and I'll play back'

You aren't perfect. Pretending like you are is silly.

ArumiOrnaught,

I didn't take great umbrage. That was 3 lines out of 30. And also once again sandwiched between me agreeing with you mostly.

Also once again, if you're saying I said something antisemitic, then you said something homophobic first.

Once again, you're arguing against a mirror.

Weird, I thought reminding people worked :/

ArumiOrnaught,

Are you having computer problems where it jumbles up post order?

ArumiOrnaught,

If you want to take the worst possible interpretation of what I said then I'm just going to do the same to you.

If you're saying I said something antisemitic, then you said something homophobic first.

ArumiOrnaught,

I quoted what you said that was homophobic. You can’t quote what I said that was antisemitic because I said nothing antisemitic. The one time you tried, you dishonestly took what I said out of context as if I was saying that all Jewish people ARE rabbi's or ARE John Stewart when I was saying THE EXACT OPPOSITE. I don’t know why you did that.

Again- you said something homophobic. I quoted it. You cannot quote a single antisemitic thing I said. Not a single thing.

Me - "I'm part of x group"
You - "you think it's fine that x is stereotyped like this?"
Me - "No, it isn't good. I've heard same but for you"
You - "what you said was bad"
Me - "then what you said was bad"

I really don't understand how you're not getting this. You're mad at a mirror.

ArumiOrnaught,

"all gay men go mincing around" - FlyingSquid

See now I'm quoting you saying something homophobic. Amazing what happens when you want to attack something.

I'll just do the same, once again, you're mad at a mirror.

ArumiOrnaught,

Will do. I appreciate you making time for us hooligans :)

ArumiOrnaught,

They can also change things, like idle speed. You also need one for any form of electric vehicle.

ArumiOrnaught,

Tbf, roaches I feel would be covered under his "bad or dangerous" clause.

I've picked up wolf spiders before, but if there is a black widow inside I'll smash it. Can't risk them harming me or the ones I look after.

ArumiOrnaught,

Idk man, a lot of sea bugs have more leg and I want them in my mouth.

ArumiOrnaught,

4some is better, you can go for longer because brakes are possible.

Also never have a 3some with straight people. They have expectations that will never hold up to reality.

ArumiOrnaught,

I don't think I've stopped in the middle of something without planning on coming back. If something is difficult I'm more likely to do better the next day.

But something that I know I would not have fun with is platinum any Yakuza game. And honestly, I'm glad this game taught me to not worry about not completing things I don't care about.

ArumiOrnaught,

Like most addictions, it's rarely the product that they're consuming is the reason for addiction.

Like how you get less drug addictions when you decriminalize drugs.

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