Carlspanks

@Carlspanks@kbin.social

Recommendation to defederate from exploding-heads

That entire instance is infested with a massive amount of right-wing hate, transphobia, homophobia, and ugly political vitriol under the guise of “allowing free speech”, rising to the same level or worse than lemmygrad (which we have already defederated from for obvious reasons). Please get this garbage off of the “all”...

JasSmith,

I don’t understand why you were downvoted. Lemmy gives us all the tools we need to block communities and users we don’t want to see. Is that not good enough? Do they want to control the experience for everyone else as well? Bunch of authoritarians in here.

JasSmith,

Exactly. If OP wants to defederated, they should go and set up their own instance. Why are they trying to control the experience for everyone else?

JasSmith,

They have 26 downvotes. You have two. You don’t see them because your instance doesn’t let you see them. We can see them from other instances.

AnonymousLlama,
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Probably because they've seen content they don't like and instead of taking the personal responsibility of blocking it themselves, they want it done at the federation level.

AnonymousLlama,
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Exactly this. People have the tools and abilities to block these communities and domains if they don't want to see that content. Pulling out the de-federation ban-hammer whenever you personally aren't keen on the content isn't a reasonable solution.

JasSmith,

Or you just block any communities from the instance you don’t like. It’s slightly less convenient than one button for the whole instance, but it does the same thing.

subigo,

All the downvotes to this comment are ridiculous. Everyone on this site has the ability to block any instance they want. Want "X" instance off your front page? Guess what, you can do that with the click of a button.

sj_zero,

Exploding-heads was here years before any of you or the instances you’re on. They were happily sitting there posting and discussing daily about the things that interest them. You might disagree with what they’re talking about, but don’t act like they’re only doing it to spite you.

You redditors came into a space that existed for years before you ever even heard of it, act like you invented it, then act all outraged that there were already people here and their existence is a giant conspiracy theory meant to spite you personally.

You want to defederate from them? Go ahead. That’s the right and power of each instance to choose who to associate with. But quit it with the narcissistic conspiracy theories. A lot of people were chased off of big tech before you, they didn’t just stop existing – they ended up somewhere and often that was the fediverse.

sj_zero,

I don’t recall anyone apologizing.

JasSmith,

I don’t like the concept of the owners of instances acting like dictators. We had that on Reddit. No point in being on Lemmy if that’s the ethos. I’d rather the owners let us decide our own experience.

sj_zero,

The narcissistic conspiracy theory is pretending that exploding-heads exists solely to mess with you personally, and that they just came to exist to mess with you and abuse the communities that only just came to exist about a month ago.

People who disagree with you exist. It’s not some conspiracy theory meant to harm you personally.

sj_zero,

I wish I could argue with you on this point, but while I think no group should be beyond criticism and that includes “protected groups”, I would tend to agree that some of the posts I’ve seen in the past are probably over a line and as such I can understand why people would just say “naw, let’s just not federate that”.

There are lots of good posts on the site even – they cover a lot of stuff we should be talking about such as crony capitalism and corruption, but it doesn’t take many really bad posts gone completely unmanaged and unchallenged to turn an instance into a superfund site, even for reasonably liberal people who want to allow talking about controversial topics.

I think that’s a much better argument than just painting the site and everything and everyone on it with a broad brush. “There’s specific stuff on that site that they find acceptable but we don’t and there’s been instances where the users there brought their unacceptable stuff into the other communities so we don’t want to federate with them to maintain our own community standards” is difficult to argue with. It’s a well-reasoned point that shows everyone is thinking for themselves which is all I ask.

And yeah, I saw OP was from beehaw afterward and realized that they were probably around a bit before all this.

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