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@cendawanita@kbin.social

My main is @cendawanita. this account is all about sharing and boosting stuff from Malaysia and SEA. I started @magASEAN to share all that stuff. Come join. Have a personal one too: @myMOAC - mainly to announce my website updates and also any quick and dirty linking

How do kbin instances (and all aggregator protocols) work to maintain privacy and safety? What can we put up on the roadmap (when there is one)? (Instance members at least; ppl posting on fedi in general)

This is going to be kbin focused because that's the infra I'm most familiar with, but if any part of this is relevant to Lemmy and other upcoming aggregators it's worth a think too:...

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@NotTheOnlyGamer that is definitely a good practice as an individual user. At instance-level, do you share my concerns tho?

cendawanita,
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@NotTheOnlyGamer it's still worth worrying. Like, in the examples i gave in the comments, i can't login to kbin.social with my other account, and i can't delete my posts. (ETA: but the larger problem is the flood of traffic and kbin hasn't had time to sort out proper instance blocks yet. Spam is already an issue)

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@Kierunkowy74 yup that's a good move. But overwhelming traffic from legit users is still however an issue.

One rl illustration: https://ar.al/2022/11/09/is-the-fediverse-about-to-get-fryed-or-why-every-toot-is-also-a-potential-denial-of-service-attack/

@NotTheOnlyGamer

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@NotTheOnlyGamer ah ok, you haven't seen either the posts here, or on the fediverse magazine, or just the fact the fedidb (who tracks usage stats) had to pause on their count for threadiverse accounts because spam accounts inflated the count, or lemmy.blahaj.zone having to take a minute to delete all the spam accounts...

But fundamentally you're still not wrapping your head around what federation means. Just before Reddit Migration, the biggest and flagship instance mastodon.social, were put on silence or defed a few times this year because their open signups caused spam being sent across the fediverse.

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@asjmcguire the user-level block means you the user can't see the post. It's still being fetched at instance level. So in terms of avoiding hate speech (political problem), good and quick step to do. In terms of overwhelming an instance with traffic (the technical problem), not so much.

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@furrowsofar very much this point. There's an additional issue related to (kbin) infra as well, it does fetch content and present it as tho that person posted on the microblog here and short of contacting an admin, no user-level way to delete it (since they can't actually login)

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@Naomikho practicing to be a solar panel 😂

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@Annoyed_Crabby oh yeah, this guy documented his experience (he's a popular guy, fedi-side) https://ar.al/2022/11/09/is-the-fediverse-about-to-get-fryed-or-why-every-toot-is-also-a-potential-denial-of-service-attack/

Then of course, before you guys discovered the place, mastodon.social had to be silenced or defed a few times already because open signups+ popularity = spammers sending crypto DMs across Fedi lol. They had to do the same thing every time: close registration and then manually clear out the accounts (they can't afford to be cincai the way other places can once they get big; Fedi does also run a lot on reputation + if you suggest, ah then you join mastodon.social lor, sure will kena)

@imaginelizard

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@Annoyed_Crabby no probs!

@imaginelizard

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@Annoyed_Crabby we don't know the full details yet on how (i did share on cafe about 2 days ago what details we have like the proposed instance name) but short answer is yes. Details indicate that it's going to be a bridge for its Instagram side where it exports to a (likely) Masto instance. And Fedi accounts can follow there. And from there, well, it spiders outwards... Once they get boosted, then which instance picks it up etc. And because how masto works on the backend every change propagates down and upline. That's how u can accidentally DDoS small instances and webhosts if something gets too popular (it's happened, and that's with pre-reddit population size, lol)

@imaginelizard

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@be_excellent_to_each_other in principle as that's the point of federation, it's value-neutral to participate in such comms.

But say you're concerned about downtimes or culture or you're anticipating that instance will not be reachable or even it increases traffic load, then maybe you'll find it sensible to support a local community or magazine

crossmr, to kbinMeta

Why can a banned user from another instance continue to post to my magazine? He's clearly in the ban log but can still post.

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I'm very sorry, atm it does sound the only thing left you can do is deleting his posts as it shows up on the blog

@NOOBMASTER @cutitdown @crossmr

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@crossmr can you confirm that he's posting direct to microblog or is the microblog slurping his content because it matches a tracked tag? If the first it's a bug, if the second it's a built-in flaw.

@NOOBMASTER

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@crossmr I've never had to try this to a blocked account but... For your microblog, do you have posts that're posted directly there. Like you know it's posted there. You can even do a test one (Add new post - that type will always go to blog).

Then, click on More of the test post and select copy to Fediverse. That URL takes you to the original version of the post. If the test post confirms the magazine as it's original URL, now do the More+copy to Fediverse to that post and see what's the URL. If it exists back on his home account, then yes, might as well ping Ernest or add an issue ticket. That's a critical flaw for mods.

@NOOBMASTER

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@crossmr the way it's set up (partly because the instance is meant to be proof of concept) is that every mag's name becomes a hashtag that will be slurped. Try looking at your magazine panel... Hold on... Once you're there then the tags tab should be to the right.

:( But I think this is definitely a flaw/worthy to raise a ticket because double-checking with mine, my magazine's name is not one of the tags i can delete.

@NOOBMASTER @cutitdown

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@Annoyed_Crabby oh no, downvote also I can see, being a kbin user. It's the other microblog protocols that won't register anything. (if you feel nak lepas geram, this may be useful info, if you're adding any fedi accounts to your timeline/stream/subscription view (I assume you guys have this)

@imaginelizard @dcx

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@unhedged Alamak, it was auto-tagged on my end (as the creator of the thread). And lol, you're basically saying conventional wisdom about his output tbh. The sober era one i like most is really his non-fiction On Writing.

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@dcx @Annoyed_Crabby lol i think because kbin was written as being both link aggregation like Lemmy but also microblogging like Mastodon, Calckey, Akkoma etc. And before Reddit, the expectation must be because the main audience will be bloggers who'll be visiting from federated spaces (chewah cam star trek). So upvote maps to likes; boosts is reblogs; downvotes go nowhere (since blogging platforms don't have these).

It's memang quite interpretative dance la - Calckey (and all the *keys) can give emoji reacts but it just shows up as likes on my Masto fork.

That's why I thought i better bring it up. It semi looks like Reddit but backend lain sikit.

Anyway.... I can see... But idk if adding a photo will add load so here's the direct link of this comm on kbin.social: https://kbin.social/m/cafe@monyet.cc/t/77005/c-cafe-daily-chat-thread-for-23-June-2023#entry-comment-342733

Each comment has a More - then select Activity ok kesian runs away like Discord before the Trojan War

@imaginelizard

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Double-checking for you guys on Lemmy: you can also see who upvoted right? It federates into a like on the microblog side.

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Betrayed by autocorrect, i wanted to say ok sekian lmao

@imaginelizard @dcx @Annoyed_Crabby

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@unhedged ya, a lot of people speculate (i think he also confirmed a bit), a lot of The Shining was him working out how he could see he was also being a destructive force on his family. I think the fact was picked up by Kubrick, but his rendition of that, King famously hated.

@imaginelizard

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@unhedged ah yes, and famously written during his addiction years too - it feels so personal because it was :(

@imaginelizard

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@imaginelizard haih, we close one eye on areas they live in and then we say they're dirty.

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More @doop travels @doop 🔗 https://octodon.social/users/doop/statuses/110592650362764793

But also to see if this post is federated

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