Some people use search for more than finding recipes and google has been sucking at professional search for a while now, as has been repeatedly reported at Hacker News
I was usimg Kagi a few months ago. Then I started selfhosting a SearXNG instance. I love the customizability. I dislike how they are also getting into AI just like other big tech.
Self hosting is better than using someone else’s product. I also want to self host my email, but they say it’s a pain in the ass and hard to maintain.
I used Kagi for a few months but was turned off by the fact that they developed an entire production line for making tee shirts vs. spending more time on making their service better.
Their CEO also doesn’t understand personal boundaries (or privacy laws, if he truly believes everything he says in these emails): discuss.techlore.tech/t/…/2
heh, you should see it now - they’ve expanded the features.
i’ll take a look at the controversy, thanks.
edit: skimmed it, looks like contrived controversy to me - a rather unprofessional software reviewer that isn’t willing to engage with their subject? no thanks… but to each their own.
For searches , cause i think it’s fundamental such as how to fix bathroom leak or even specific name of generic OTC medicine, it’s so trivial
Consider if you do search for trivial things how don manage only with 300 searches ? When I am lookig for something’s specific it takes multiple searches within hour , what would do then ?
And I used to use search engines professionally for work (think potentially hundereds of searches per day, sometimes), so it’s easy for me to justify paying for quality.
But according the data, most regular folk won’t search more than 300 times per month. Some days you might search more, some you might search less, you know?
I am trying it out, got a subscription a couple of weeks ago. I went to unlimited searches right away since on a work day I heavily rely on search engines.
To be honest, I have nothing to say about it, which feels like a good thing considering that lately I have been complaining a lot about Google.
It’s only $108/yr for unlimited searches, if you actually need that many. I’m a retired software engineer and search all the time, so I just went with the unlimited plan, but most people don’t actually search more than 300 times a month.
“If you’re not paying for the product, you are the product”
After using the trial for a month and reaching the limit, i decided to pay for the $108/yr unlimited searches.
Kagi did statistical analysis before assigning pricing (it was a long process that they would update us on while they gave us leniency on the quotas). They found that 300 per month was the sweet spot for a lot of regular people that might only search a few times a week or others that might only occasionally do deep dives.
edit: fixed an error, but also adding: no, i exclusively use kagi now on all my devices. give it a test run, it is dramatically different from ddg and googhell
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