tuneintodetuned, 1 day ago

Y respondo de nuevo al hilo, pero esta vez me ahorro la mención a ambos grupos. No adjunto nada, ya que esta publicación es para comprobar si las respuestas al hilo de un grupo de #Lemmy y/o #Kbin dependen también de estas menciones desde #Mastodon o no. Probaré en otro momento desde #Pixelfed, aunque en mis anteriores pruebas fue la que peor federaba con estos grupos.

tuneintodetuned, 1 day ago

Y en este sólo haré mención a @detun3d por probar, ya que sigo viendo que desde #Kbin no aparece absolutamente nada como venía siendo costumbre.

detun3d, 1 day ago

@tuneintodetuned Bien, aparentemente sí que aparece, pero han estado actualizando esto y probablemente purgando también, ya que la "magazine" o grupo que había creado en #Kbin ha desaparecido y de ahí mi confusión haciendo mención a la cuenta porque no encontraba ya grupo de Kbin. Tendré que ponerle solución.

detun3d, 1 day ago

Parece que #Kbin ha llegado a callarme la boca. Antes contaba con peor federación que #Lemmy y ahora pasa al contrario. #Kbin parece llevar ventaja.

tuneintodetuned, 1 day ago

@detun3d Además de esto, los adjuntos en respuestas a hilos desde @detun3d en #Lemmy no se ven, mientras que actualmente desde #Kbin sí aparecen como un enlace.

tuneintodetuned, 1 day ago

Por último, añadido a esto veo que en #Kbin han añadido nuevas funciones, entre ellas la capacidad de filtrar contenidos de los grupos por etiquetas al igual que se hace en #Reddit, algo que en #Lemmy aun no existe a pesar de tener más edad.
Kbin gana este asalto y de reafirmarse migraré los grupos de Lemmy a Kbin para que se pueda interactuar con ellos desde Mastodon para publicaciones concretas en aspectos en los que los hashtags no sirvan.
Pendiente también de #Mastodon y #Pixelfed.

tallship, 8 days ago

@Sandra

Sandra, I'm really glad I had the opportunity to catch your review, or rather, observation of POSSE, especially the long term ramifications from the PoV of #DeSoc.

For quite some time now, I've been advocating for something that describes a not so dissimilar modus operandi for extricating subjugated chattel from that of the #Borg_Collective.

POSSE has merit, being a partial design for disrupting the deprecated monolithic silos, but IMO actually falls short by only seeking to coexist with it, instead of completely obviating them.

As a dedicated FOSS and Privacy Advocate, here's my take on how we can follow a best practices modus operandi, achieving what can eventually relegate today's monolithic silos into the marginalized zone, sending them into the abyss of downtrodden insignificance.

The model can work from any Fediverse platform, but platforms that support a rich feature set with longform authoring capabilities work best, having the greatest impact. For those stuck using masto for the time being, their impact will be less dramatic, but nonetheless still valid.

The model I've been advocating goes like this:

1. ) Create original content on Fediverse enabled properties you own, or cite (link to) content NOT residing in the deprecated silo space (Twitter, Medium, TikTok, InstaSPAM, YouTube, Faceplant, Reddit, Linkedin, Etc.). You can do this from pretty much any Fediverse platform - even masto, with its paltry 500 character limit. A paragraph or so as a rule of thumb, just a teaser/headline to create interest for the reader to follow the link.
2. ) Optional: For added impact and if you have any, from your traditional silo account(s), as well as from less capable clones like masto, offer up a teaser, perhaps a paragraph or so, with a link to the URL of this original content.
3. ) If you're merely pointing to an article or resource created by someone else that exists independently, that's it. Well done! If you created your original content in long form on a more capable Fediverse platform than masto - there are many excellent Fediverse platforms for doing this. A few of those are:

• Streams
• Mitra
• Misskey, Iceshrimp, Cherrypick, Firefish, and Others
• Pleroma, SoapBox, and Akkoma
• Friendica
• Hubzilla
• WriteFreely
• WordPress (with the ActivityPub plugin)
• Ghost (reportedly coming soon)
• GoToSocial
• Socialhome

4. ) Endeavor to never publish any actual content (articles, news, photos, videos) on platforms in the deprecated monolithic silo space. Instead, it is preferable to publish your photos, videos on demand, and textual content on a Fediverse Platform well suited to this. i.e., PeerTube for VoDs, Pixelfed for images, and one or more of the platforms mentioned above for textual or multimedia based content such as news articles, HowTo's, tutorials, recipes, Etc.
5. ) Occasionally, you may find it necessary to link to content in the deprecated silo space - a video on YouTube, for example. You may be able to clone videos (depending on licensing) to a PeerTube server, but if not, then make sure you sanitize those videos by using tools such as Invidious that shield the viewer from tracking and other privacy disrespecting constructs built into those silo systems.

The philosophy here is to ensure that anything posted into the deprecated monolithic silo space entreats the reader/viewer to leave that space in order to consume the content.

This practice insures that the consumer of that information does so in a protected, privacy respecting place, presumably built on FOSS, and in the Fediverse. It further serves to familiarize the consumer in an easy and unassuming way, with Fediverse platforms that do not track them or mine their privacy.

For the Fedizen however, it provides a one way transit - anyone seeing a teaser/headline/intro on say, Twitter or Faceplant, is immediately catapulted away from those denizens of commodification that packages and inventories the consumer as the product for sale, depriving those platforms of the necessary revenue that sustains them - death by atrophe. No blissful coexistence, every single post inside the deprecated monolithic silo space is in fact an egress point bringing the consumer into a free and privacy respecting environment.

Obviously, an article on the New York Times website isn't ideal, but it isn't strictly one of the monolithic silo systems listed above either. In this case specifically, it's a walled garden however, so you're directing the consumer to a place where they'll be privacy mined anyway, which offers three other possibilities:

• You can, and should unless you feel you absolutely must, elect not to send someone to that resource
• You can, under certain circumstances, copy that data verbatim elsewhere and provide a link to that place where you copied the data.
• You can also probably check with the AP, since we're talking about a newspaper outlet, most of which actually pull their news from the Associated Press and other similar networks that provide free access, which you can link to instead.

There's simply no way to completely ensure being so mindful of your consumers without precluding yourself from linking to some forms of interesting content - but the point here is that almost without exception, you're not sending anyone into the deprecated monolithic silo space - you're sending them into the Fediverse, where they'll begin to become comfortable with, eventually creating their own accounts here.

I recently had some discussions with a few folks who completely turned their back on things like Twitter, which is good because it is one of those social networking systems that engages in tracking and privacy mining. Those individuals have made it easy for themselves by simply putting the existence of those privacy disrespecting resources completely outside the real of consideration - it's not like anyone is going to suffer because they didn't visit Faceplant. They may suffer a bit of withdrawals, but bear the following in mind:

There are liquor stores on virtually every corner in the real world. They sell booze at liquor stores. An alcoholic must come to terms with this and learn to live with this fact, making a conscious choice to buy, or not to buy booze in those stores, or even go outside where the temptation is even greater.

That's not the greatest metaphor I know, or maybe I just didn't deliver it well. Either way, I hope that in understanding this death by atrittion model, that people can make better informed decisions about privacy for themselves and others.

I'd love to hear your comments and thoughts on the matter, and any tools that help assist folks in addressing privacy concerns. Please feel free to share this by boosting to raise awareness within the Fediverse (and beyond) of all the excellent platforms available to everyone in the Fediverse. I realize I left out large sectors of the Fediverse that can be factored into this formula - the link aggregators and forums like #NodeBB, #Lemmy, #Kbin, #Mbin, #Discourse, and more. I didn't even directly address the purpose built single user instance platforms. Maybe we can give them some coverage in a later edition :)

All the best!

#tallship

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Kierunkowy74, 12 days ago

Federation bug on #kbin - account name should be (at)tic-tac-toe(at)games.rerere.org

tuneintodetuned, 13 days ago

@Vardy
Funciona, pero no del todo si sigue igual que el año pasado. Nosotros creamos grupos/comunidades en #Kbin (@detun3d) y #Lemmy (@detun3d). Hicimos otra para organizar partidas en juegos abandonados como hicimos en Reddit (@raidstream) pero las dos primeras quizá te sirvan mejor para experimentar y ver si te sirve o prefieres esperar a los grupos de #Pixelfed.