circuitfarmer,
@circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Seems clear to me that Facebook should have no other interest in this other than ultimately making money. Thus it is antithetical to Lemmy and the fediverse in general, and should be treated as such.

Xeelee,
Xeelee avatar

I don't think they're there to make money. They want to take over the place and then absorb it in other to eliminate competition. Which is what they've always been doing.

emstuff,

elimining competition is kind of totally a tactic to make money dude 👍

circuitfarmer,
@circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

I mean, yeah, the end game there is to make money. They don’t want to take it over for brownie points.

fbievan,
@fbievan@fedia.io avatar

Not really, they're businesses that sell fediverse hosting, right?

princessnorah,
@princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

While I’m sure that one-click hosting for fediverse instances exist, I’d imagine most instance admins would be using general dedicated server hosting. It would allow for finer control of the backend.

BlueSharkEnjoyer,
@BlueSharkEnjoyer@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

My main mastodon uses one of the hosted services, which I’m totally fine with. Moderating a community is hard enough without adding extra sysadmin work on top, and I’m happy to donate towards the running costs whatever way the admins choose is best to run it.

missingno,
missingno avatar

The fact that Threads won't launch in Europe because it's literally illegal there tells me everything I need to know about this platform. Do not trust Facebook, do not federate with Facebook.

Balssh,
Balssh avatar

If only US would have sane laws too...

funnyjelo,

Please no.

kbity,
kbity avatar

Literally my first exposure to Threads as an active web service tells me that even if it weren't a blatant attempt at Embrace-Extend-Extinguish, you do not want to be federated with it. All your "favourites" from Twitter are there.

winterayars,

Jesus Christ how horrifying

forpeace,

I don’t want any corporate bodies on the fediverse

Completely agree. We've seen how corporate involvement in social media works, let's leave it behind.

curiosityLynx,

I can see one usecase of corporate servers in the fediverse:

Twitter has various official corporate accounts and also accounts that pretend to be official corporate accounts but aren't. Twitter's solution to that was verification. In the fediverse, a company like Roblox could spin up mastodon.roblox.com with only one or two accounts that would act as the equivalent of a verified Twitter account by virtue of their home server being a roblox domain.a

samsy,

They really think we never learned from google+ or WhatsApp? They implement OpenSource, greedy milk it to the ground and close it or set their propetary code over it. Nothing has changed, we should be worried about activitypub since the greedy five are interested in it.

riwo,

did whatsapp ever allow communication with other instances?

Onii-Chan,
Onii-Chan avatar

Great. I came here specifically to escape big tech bullshit, and now they're coming to infect the fediverse. At this point, I don't care. Once they get a foot in the door, it's already too late. I'll just leave if I have to, I haven't had any social media in years at this point anyway. I can't envision a world where Meta doesn't use covert tactics to gain a stranglehold over this place.

ragemidi,
ragemidi avatar

Can't wait for every instance to block it lmao

spaduf,
@spaduf@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

One thing they’ve started mentioning over on Mastodon is that boosts can probably be legally used to build ad profiles.

fbievan,
@fbievan@fedia.io avatar

That's the stupidest idea I've heard in my life.

33KK,

It’s literally true, can you just stop this meta-dickriding?

BlueSharkEnjoyer,
@BlueSharkEnjoyer@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I’m sure the GDPR won’t cause them any problems in that regard, just like there haven’t been repeated rulings from the ECJ that that’s not okay to do with Facebook user data.

newIdentity,

It isn’t available in Europe because it’s literally illegal here

spaduf,
@spaduf@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Assuming they ever even launch in Europe.

surlybaer,

Agreeing with the general sentiment. Anytime the big five ‘engage’ with the open source community they just use and abuse it. IMHO it would be in the best interest of the Fediverse to reject all partnership offers from the corps and make sure to defederate any instances they stand up.

fbievan,
@fbievan@fedia.io avatar

You do realize that most of these projects are funded by cooperations, right? You do realize that the EU has a mastodon instance, right? You do realize that Mozilla has a mastodon instance, right? You also realize that mastodon is a cooperation rigbt? (Granted it is a nonprofit).

You do realize that most mastodon instantces are in some way affilated with a cooperation, right? Just by proxy. Using their servers, etc

fbievan,
@fbievan@fedia.io avatar

I'm still trying to figure out meta's Intention's, I have no problem meta monetizing their app. There is zero problems there.

Nythos,

Why are you defending Meta so much

SocializedHermit,

The intention is to hoover up user data and capitalize on it.

Jyrdano,
Jyrdano avatar

Thank god Kbin allows to block an entire instance. Although I’d prefer if the fediverse collectively defederated from them.

Buritominer2,
Buritominer2 avatar

What is Meta doing? What is Threads?

StarLuigi,
@StarLuigi@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Threads is Meta’s first social platform on the fediverse. It’s been marketed as a Twitter alternative and is growing insanely fast.

Roundcat,
Roundcat avatar

If they're in, I'm out.

ZILtoid1991,
ZILtoid1991 avatar

A lot of people are using the same user handle accross platforms. That's an easy way to deanonimize people's data, and that's what is Meta aiming for (besides potential EEE tactics).

nottheengineer,

This article sums it up very well: ploum.net/2023-06-23-how-to-kill-decentralised-ne…

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