progressquest,

I see some people that are suggesting that, while that symbol might be popular with nazies, it is likely too ubiquitous to bo only popular with the nazis. That might be true, but political figures should probably exercise a bit more caution than the average citizen when it comes to these kinds of things, if only for the optics.

On the other hand, it is likely tedious to go through all of the media that passes through a political campaign to ensure that these types of things are caught, even if there are staffers assigned to specifically these types of things.

On the other, other hand, it is probably simpler to just not agree with nazis.

gamer,

Is “wojack” really associated with nazis, or is this another pepe the frog situation?

PersnickityPenguin,

Now I think it’s more neutral, but it depends on the context he’s placed in and what accessories the artist adds to him.

gerbler,

It was the black sun

gamer,

That’s the sonnenrad, not the wojack meme.

gerbler,

Yes, I don’t know why the article even mentions the doomer because the neonazi symbol in question is the sonnenrad at the end. It honestly almost comes off as a deliberate misdirection.

Wrench,

Me: I don’t know what that is, let me check the article

Sees the picture

Me: uh, yeah, that looks like some obvious nazi or nazi suggestive, shit

gamer,

…because of the bald head?

Wrench,

Uh, no. The imagery of WW2 era style uniformed soldiers basking in the radiance of a glowing nazi-like symbol.

gamer,

Sure, but I was asking about the “wojack” meme specifically. That’s been around for a while and I never got the impression that it was a far right thing.

Historical_General,

I feel like the symbol is pretty common elsewhere though??

gravitas_deficiency,

“Predictable”, more like

ErwinLottemann,

‘ReXs’

thefloweracidic,

Anyone know the source video? Or the account that tweeted this?

EhList,

Yes, a staffer named Nate Hochman did.

I’ve linked the story in a few comments.

SangriaFerret,

"Newsweek has not been able to verify if it had been shared, or the account from which the clip was retweeted from. ’

So… They just published this article without confirming that it even happened? I’m not doubting that it did because it seems pretty on brand but you would think a major news outlet would make sure before they publish an article stating it did.

Steeve,

Was hoping we could do better here at not just sharing and upvoting articles based on titles, but this is already in my TopDay, so…

EhList,

www.pnj.com/story/news/politics/…/70455283007/

Here’s an alternate source that names the staffer that retweeted the wojack video

EhList,

www.pnj.com/story/news/politics/…/70455283007/

Here’s a different paper who not only verify who did it by name but the also label the meme by its proper name (Wojack).

So this happened but what they do note is we don’t know if the staffer saw the nazi symbol or if they might have shared it simply because it celebrates homophobia and transphobia.

Cubes,

Wow this article is so much better. Thank you for linking!

Dekthro,

YIKES.

Hyphlosion,
@Hyphlosion@donphan.social avatar

Or both.

darthfabulous42069,

I’m not one for dramatics, but HOLY FUCK.

That’s BAD. It’s obvious what they really intend now. How do we stop them?

Cabrio,

News gotta go fast, 24 hour news cycle and still not enough time for all of it. Fact checking? That’s for losers, and if you’re not first you’re a loser.

henfredemars,

Take my angry upvote; it’s true; getting there first matters more than getting it right for those views. They maybe go back and edit later.

EhList,

www.pnj.com/story/news/politics/…/70455283007/

Here you go an alternate source just so you aren’t left wondering if DeSantis’ campaign has shitty people in it.

2ez,

It’s unfortunate how successful this propaganda is, but it makes sense.

It’s well produced content with a catchy song. It’s normalizing hate through meme culture and radicalising impressionable people.

Similarly, I believe this documentary talked about qanon and right wing hate groups using similar tactics on facebook, instagram and other “normie” social media, not just the 4chan incel cave, en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feels_Good_Man

PeckerBrown,

DeSantis would be a perfect choice for scaphism therapy.

hardypart,

We’re already putting “retweeted” into quotation marks, lol

loobkoob,
loobkoob avatar

It's more aesthetically pleasing and rolls off the tongue better than "regurgitated xcrement"

DigitalTraveler42,

We’ve had Nazis protesting all over Orlando and Tampa practically every weekend these days, yet our governor and his surrogates just encourages more of this Nazi crap.

Thankfully we have Volusia county Sheriff Mike Chitwood actively trying to arrest as many of these Nazi fuckers that he can get proof of wrongdoing for, he seems to be the only authority figure in the state actually trying to do something about the growing Nazi infestation we’ve got going on here in Florida.

gamer,

Mike Chitwood for governor!

DigitalTraveler42,

I’d rather avoid a cop being governor, but if there was one to be governor I’d be okay with it, definitely better than the current Nazi enabling dipshit, definitely better than Grady Judd or one of the other dipshits he does political commercials with, possibly better than Nikki Fried, although full recreational pot under Fried would be nice.

exohuman,
exohuman avatar

Anyone have an archive link to the post and video? I want to share it. People need to know.

thefloweracidic,

Yes! Seriously, this is a great smoking gun, all I was able to find was a screenshot from the video, but nothing else.

tigerjerusalem,

Holy crap. In other countries people would be arrested for using fascist and nazi imagery. What kind of hell hole is the US becoming?

IntoDaLagoon,

The proverbial chickens are coming home to roost

LEDZeppelin,

A confederate one

SnowboardBum,
SnowboardBum avatar

Our first amendment to our constitution gives us protections not to be arrested for unsavory speech. It's a knife that cuts in every direction. Trump couldn't just lock up AOC, willynilly, for her trashing of him on the daily.

djsoren19,

Somehow, we’ve fully confused facts for opinions, and now you’re just allowed to say whatever hateful nonsense you want because pearl-clutching centrists don’t believe anyone can make restrictions on speech that couldn’t be abused.

EhList,

The USA values freedom of speech to a higher degree

chaogomu,

Becoming? The only reason why Nazi ideology didn't take off in America in the 1930s was because American conservatives wanted a home-grown fascism, not that imported shit.

Even so, there was that massive Nazi rally at Madison Square Garden that everyone forgets about. Allen Dulles, who went on to become the head of the CIA when it was formed, is said to have shed real tears when America declared war on Germany.

It was also an American Neo-Nazi who created Holocaust Denialism.

Zombiepirate,
@Zombiepirate@lemmy.world avatar

And the Silver Legion was a contemporary Fascist movement here in the US.

nan,

America First was only one such group, the German Abwehr was very active in America.

Father Coughlin had a radio audience of tens of millions and literally read Goebbels’ propaganda over the air. He had his own militia group.

The Silver Legion was another one.

A man named Leon Lewis formed a civilian spy ring that was tracking Nazis in Los Angeles. One of its members even warned congress of a planned attack on the Hercules Powder plant a year before it was blown up (cause still officially unknown).

I think Pearl Harbor is the main reason this stuff was stopped.

Literati,

The podcast Ultra by Rachel Maddow goes into the history of this period and is really good

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Why is there even outrage at this point? It’s not a secret these people are Nazis. They’ve barely hidden it. Thankfully, DeSantis has no chance at all.

manillaface,
manillaface avatar

Don’t get complacent. That was the word about Trump until he won in ‘16.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

DeSantis is going against Trump. It’s very clear who Republicans like more.

EDIT: So sorry, I have no idea what happened.

islandofcaucasus,

I was worried about DeSantis at first, but he’s a value brand Trump. He doesn’t get people riled up like Trump does. I’m still worried about Trump though. I drink think he could win again but I didn’t think he’d win in 2016

snooggums,
snooggums avatar

DeSantis doesn't get the right riled up, but he is effective in ruining everything intentionally like McConnell. He won't get the Republicsn nomination till Trump dies, but he will probably be the successor.

echo,

He’s effective at ruining everything in Florida, where he has Reublican supermajorities in the legislature to back him up. I’m not convinced he’s actually an effective politician like McConnell.

GiddyGap,

There’s fortunately a lot more opposition to Trump this time around. Hopefully enough to keep him out of office.

PhoenixRising,

I don’t think the corporate sponsors of the gop will allow DeSantis. Trump was VERY good for business, DeSantis has shown that he is a threat and can’t play nice.

raltoid,

They’re trying to present it as if it was shocking, to “subtley” deny what they are, but actually spreading who they really are.

It all falls into their mindset of thinking most people secretly agree with them. They’re idiots who think it is some clever ruse to rally support.

pizza_rolls,
pizza_rolls avatar

If this video wasn't created to highlight that Desantis is a fascist then we should definitely start doing that and getting him to unironically support them lmao

Ensign_Crab,

Is anyone even remotely surprised? This is all Republicans are anymore.

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