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Zagorath

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You lefty’s

This bothers me more than any political disagreement ever will.

Zagorath,
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It’s quite simple. This person is committing the etymological fallacy. A word’s meaning today does not have to be exactly equivalent to its meaning in the past, or to the words it evolved out of.

But even in Plato’s depiction of love I don’t think they’ve quite got it right. “that includes romantic/physical love” seems to be conflating romantic love with carnal attraction, which is pretty strongly not what Plato was about.

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Ah right, when I wrote that I hadn’t clicked through to the original post. Didn’t realise both the original and the x-post were by you.

should it mean something different

I guess that depends on what you think “should” be. The term “platonic love”, as it is currently popularly understood, refers to something really useful. I think there “should” be a word for that. It’s something that people need to refer to much more often than they need to refer to what Plato meant by the term.

I think the common phrase “platonic ideal” fits well with the original version of Platonic love. The platonic ideal of anything is it’s most perfect form, encompassing all that that thing is. The original Platonic love was the platonic ideal of love, at the top of the ladder above mere carnal attraction or romantic affection.

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Never buy early access on the hope that the game will get better. Buy it if it’s at least good enough to justify its current price tag right now.

Zagorath,
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But then for some reason, another company went back and restarted publishing the old lines

I think it was the same company. White Wolf published World of Darkness games using its Storyteller system from 1991 until 2004. They then made the move to Chronicles of Darkness (a retroactive title the only came about in 2015, until then they were also called World of Darkness officially, known to fans as “new World of Darkness”) in 2004. CoD changed some of the lore around and drastically cut back on how detailed and complex the metanarrative was.

CoD used their new “Storytelling” system, and did not perform very well commercially. Probably some fans didn’t like it much, but mainly they decided to stop selling in stores so there was no discoverability. During the CoD era, White Wolf still published some WoD material, such as the 20th anniversary editions.

The most important detail here though comes in 2015–2018. Up until this point White Wolf has been bought and sold a couple of times, most recently by CCP. In 2015 they are bought by Paradox Interactive. In 2018 they release VtM 5th edition. In response to allegations of some very problematic material in V5, Paradox dissolves White Wolf and brings WoD production into Paradox Interactive.

I think that only Vampire, Hunter, and Werewolf are currently supported in the latest edition of Storyteller, but I may have missed something.

It’s true that Onyx Path as a separate licensee has published books for White Wolf/CCP/Paradox. But they’ve done 20th Anniversary, CoD, and V5 stuff. The actual decision to go back to WoD was White Wolf/Paradox’s.

Zagorath,
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So, my context here is that I’ve never played any WoD or CoD games. But a couple of years back I was almost part of a group that was going to play a V5 campaign before it fell through. (I forget the timeline…might even have been December 2019 or thereabouts…) So I bought and have read through the V5 Core Rulebook. I obviously don’t have earlier editions to compare it to, but I thought the system itself seemed really elegant. The kind of beautifully simple game design that first attracted me to D&D 5th edition. (Unfortunately having not played V5, I couldn’t say whether I would eventually get tired of that simplicity in the same way I got tired of D&D 5e.)

From what I understand, they seem to have changed the metanarrative quite a lot from previous editions. Seemingly for the worse, according to a lot of people who really liked the old lore. Which might mean it’s for the better (relative to old WoD) if you preferred CoD?

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The way it’s phrased in the quotes, this seems more like a reference to their ridiculous conspiracy theory that he won in 2020 and is thus technically the president today, rather than an assertion that he’ll run in 2028 even if he wins this year.

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You do realise this is being posted to make fun of Zac and Chris, and not the people in the park, right?

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this feels more like an attack on Gina

That’s 100% what it is, and why I shared it in !ausmemes and not as a serious call to action.

Keeping pet cats indoors would save millions of native animals and billions of dollars. So what's stopping us? (www.abc.net.au)

Broader adoption of keeping cats safe at home would have large benefits for cat welfare, human health, local wildlife and even the economy. So, should cat owners be required to keep their pets contained to their property?...

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Try to keep non de-sexed cat

I’mma stop you right there. No, don’t do that.

Zagorath,
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The Jungle Book, also known as The Jungle Book

Thanks.

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the speeds that ebikes can hit now

They’re legally capped at 25 km/h, even if the technology exists to make them faster than that. It’s a big speed boost up hill, but makes no difference down hill and it’s roughly equal (or even a negative for strong cyclists) on the flat.

I don’t think speed is really the right thing to look at when talking about the advantage of ebikes. Instead, it’s the ability to travel with less physical effort, especially when going on hilly routes or carrying larger loads.

(And as a minor side note, I really wish we used the 20 mph speed cap used in places that still use mediaeval measurements. 32 km/h is still a very safe speed, but would be noticeably faster.)

Zagorath,
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Personally I think 45 km/h is an excessive and potentially unsafe speed.

Zagorath,
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Yeah with a 25 km/h limit, I would probably be looking into how to disable the limiter. If the limit was 32 km/h that would be much less likely.

But it’s only hypothetical for me, as I’ve never owned an ebike.

Zagorath,
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Off topic, but does this show get good? I love her standup, but after watching 2 or 3 episodes of this show I found it painfully unfunny, and not at all like the late-night show that it was billed as.

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for all of us non Brits

It’s funny you should say that. It’s American, as you’ve learnt. I’m neither American nor British, but to me the show does actually seem more similar to a format of show that’s very popular in Britain, but not so common in America. The panel show. Think QI, 8 Out of 10 Cats, or Would I Lie To You. Something that looks like a game show, but where the main purpose is really improv comedy and banter, more than actually winning the game.

The problem is for me, the episodes I’ve seen of After Midnight have just been much, much less funny than the typical WILTY or Cats does Countdown (and I don’t even particularly like Catsdown).

Zagorath,
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Well, that’s not exactly surprising…

Zagorath,
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I’m willing to entertain the idea that he may not have intended to whistleblow in order to reveal war crimes.

But if that’s the case, why couldn’t the government have relied upon a fair trial to establish his guilt? Even if he is guilty, he is owed due process, and being restricted from presenting necessary evidence is a violation of that due process.

Zagorath,
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Interestingly, I’ve just noticed that this is happening on non-LW communities. Here’s one LW comment that just appeared in my inbox today in an aussie.zone community, and here’s another one that appeared today (the one from @Alexstarfire, specifically). In that second thread you can see some comments from LW users which I saw and even replied to on the same day, alongside the one that didn’t show up for 8 days.

Makes it very perplexing.

Zagorath,
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Interestingly, I’ve noticed that in some cases a single thread will have some comments which do show up, and others which don’t, from LW users. In this thread you can see some comments from LW users which I saw and even replied to on the same day, alongside one that didn’t show up for 8 days.

Makes it very perplexing.

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