jon,
@jon@gruene.social avatar

But France and Spain - that don't really do through tickets - have more of their populations happy about through tickets than Austria and Germany that generally do through tickets very well… 🤷‍♂️

This - I presume - is people not knowing what a through ticket (with passenger rights) actually is?

johannes_lehmann,

@jon
Isn’t this a bit weird? The Dutch public transport system pretty much operates on one card (OV chip card) and start-end cost calculations. So if hardly anyone buys tickets for trains (except cross border), how would a question on through tickets even be relevant?

jon,
@jon@gruene.social avatar

@johannes_lehmann OV Chipkaart is about the best through ticket system possible. I conclude that most people asked don’t know what a through ticket is

mahrko,
@mahrko@zug.network avatar

@jon And who is buying tickets in Luxemburg? 😄

jon,
@jon@gruene.social avatar

@mahrko This is pre free public transport though

vlentz,

@jon what is it ???

jon,
@jon@gruene.social avatar

I think filtering this by “have you ever actually done it” would be a handy feature…

Also for - for example - Lithuania, the low scores on this point largely reflect low scores for its railway overall.

Basically looking at Eurobarometer about railways, when you know something about railways, leads to having some very confused thoughts.

c_chep,
@c_chep@piaille.fr avatar

@jon can you do anything in Lithuania that isn't a direct OR a single connection in Vilnius or Kaunas? *

*Of course, I had a counter-example, Kaunas-Trakai via Lentvaris in May

Vieux billet de train LTGLink, de Lentvaris à Trakai sur la ligne Vilnius-Trakai

alan,

@jon
The only other explanation I can think of for Spain is that maybe the answers are dominated by Cercanías commuters, and they are thinking of transfers between lines within a city?

Otherwise I agree it is hard to understand how people would be happy with anything relating to connecting trains in Spain. E.g. see the horrendous timetable from Granada to Algeciras - a journey that not so long ago didn't require a change of trains at all!

keplerniko,

@jon even my sister-in-law, who doesn't drive, takes the coach the vast majority of the time. I don't know if you can even easily get to Palanga (one major beach destination) from Vilnius (or many places other than Kaunas for that matter!), and you definitely can't get to Nida (the other) by rail.

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