datelmd5sum,

Alkaline batteries can be safely disposed in household garbage.

PolyLlamaRous,

*it can be safely done yes, but but shouldn’t and it’s not allowed in some areas. Where I live everywhere that sells batteries has to have collection points for their recycling and it is not legal to put them in the trash.

FatLegTed,
@FatLegTed@piefed.social avatar

Until stupid people stop buying this crap, this is always going to happen.

Sybilvane,

It wasn’t advertised. OP says the label didn’t indicate this was there.

AbsurdityAccelerator,

Yes, but companies need to be start being responsible too. I want to see a tax added to every single electronic product that covers recycling.

Coreidan,

They’ll never be responsible on their own. They’d willingly give you cancer if they knew it was profitable.

Mango,

We’ll see how disposable they are when the price triples because the government needs to tax enough to send people out to pick them up.

user224,

Absolutely. Perhaps not in this case, but often there aren’t even viable alternatives. You can’t stop buying everything.

And good luck only buying stuff not made with child labor and slavery.

AsherahTheEnd,

Why can we only ever hold the consumers liable? Why do people like you never condemn the creators and those who sell these products?

Mango,

Because sometimes the consumer is the boss.

FatLegTed,
@FatLegTed@piefed.social avatar

Because people buy them, they won't stop making them whilst they sell. Stop buying them and they'll stop making them. It's not like the are necessary.

barsquid,

Currently the only way to do that is to not buy dumb shit. What is condemning the manufacturers supposed to do? Make them shift uncomfortably on top of the pile of money?

riodoro1,

We’re also making disposable vapes that have rechargeable cells inside, just without any way to charge them,

coffeejoe,

They should use the deposit system to ensure they are recycled properly.

cRazi_man,

As long as people keep buying this shit and the industry succeeds in calling this a consumer problem, nothing will change. The onus needs to be on the manufacturer and doing wasteful shit like this needs to cost them dearly.

DarkThoughts,

You need political regulations for this type of shit. There's just way too many people who just don't care.

anyhow2503,

Even if they were all properly recycled, which isn’t going to happen, this product still shouldn’t be sold. We don’t need any more consumables with large ecological impact. Recycling isn’t doing nearly enough to balance out the damage.

scrion,
webghost0101,

There are so many sensible reasons to regulate these vapes and yet they go for protect the children.

How does banning disposable vapes which costs almost the same as cartridges for a non disposable vape help at all at protecting kids who would probably already stand out in the adult-oriented stores these are sold.

There needs to be proper quality control on these things with a set of ground rules for recycling and safe use. What does it matter if the user is 18 or 21?

scrion,

Totally agree, first thing I did when reading that was facepalm - not a good rhetoric at all.

GregorGizeh,

They do it because “protect the children” is an easy sale, everyone falls in line because nobody wants to be against something “for the children”. Also the reason why the horse gets beaten over every internet censorship attempt.

Swedneck,
@Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

“protect the children” is an easy sale until you want to actually do something to fix the leading causes of child deaths, like say road injuries…

Willy,

most of them are rechargeable. not refillable though, so once out of juice it’s trash time.

lemann,

On models without a charge port, some of the batteries aren’t even flat when the pods are burnt out 🤷‍♂️

Worst i’ve read is around 3.8v under load, which is roughly 60% full… that would be a very destructive result compressed in the back of a garbage truck.

Been harvesting these so far but don’t have enough projects to use them in.

user224,

I had a small bag of them for a year. I’ll just dispose of it at this point. They’re discharged so they likely lost quite a bit of capacity.

My dad used to use those. Better yet, from Wish.

And anyway, I have a similar bag of old 18650s to take care of. I should check their voltages now that I remembered it. I know their capacities used to be OK, but similar story. Haven’t touched them for a while.

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