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kwheaton, @genchat @genchat yes, chain migration! It led to thousands of descendants in the US who claimed they were related but there wasn't much proof. All surnamed MOSER and later MOSIER They came from small villages in Bavaria on 2 ships a couple of years apart in the early 1700's. I recount part of the story here. It is the classic 3 brothers story but there were 6 brothers and a sister! And these pre-date immigration records. https://wheatonwood.com/2024/01/05/the-three-brothers-story-retold-johan-martin-moser/ #chainmigration #immigration #bavaria #familyhistory #genealogy
genchat, A1 #genchat Wikipedia had a pretty good explanation & further info @genchat https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chain_migration#:~:text=Italian%20immigration%20in%20the%20late,for%20work%20as%20migrant%20laborers.
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edintone, @genchat @genchat I highly recommend 'By faith alone : one family's epic journey through 400 years of American Protestantism'
by Bill Griffeth. In fact the whole series by Bill Griffeth, as he covers US migration from Europe and the #DNA aspects too. It's a great resource if you are not directly concerned with US #migration.
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genchat, @edintone @genchat #genchat The link, if you want it: https://www.fultonhistory.com/Fulton.html
BRMiller, Q5 - a biggie is explained by a Genealogy Note from Prologue Magazine - American women marrying immigrants could lose their own native citizenship!
https://www.archives.gov/files/publications/prologue/2014/spring/citizenship.pdf
genchat, A5 #genchat @genchat A few examples from last night:
Jan - Quotas! See the Immigration Act of 1924. https://history.state.gov/milestones/1921-1936/immigration-act#:~:text=The%20Immigration%20Act%20of%201924%20limited%20the%20number%20of%20immigrants,of%20the%201890%20national%20censusChris - There was a quota put in place in the late 1920s by the US government that really hampered chain migration. Didn't stop some people...
Me - I was also reading about the Chinese exclusion act & how they had to try to work around it. Probably should have saved the link
BRMiller, The 'Pieces of History" blog at the US National Archives has several posts on the history of "control" of Chinese Immigration. Use "Chinese" in the search box.
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genchat, A4 #genchat @genchat some answers from last night:
Jan - Tip: Use Stephen P. Morse's One-Step Web Pages to look for Associated Passengers (on the same ticket) during some periods of immigration through Ellis Island.
https://stevemorse.org/ellis2/ellisgold.htmlHeather - the focus on who people know - their neighbors, their cousins, their friends - build community. It can help you focus your research. If you encounter a brick wall with one ancestor, using this method might help you uncover more information through another person.
Chris - Letters, stories passed down. Sometimes friends are sponsors on Naturalization papers.
Me - neighborhood/community mapping of FANs can be an indicator of chain migration
BRMiller, Stories passed down are important for my French cluster; Tony Belllet is my GGF.
Took me forever to find the burial of Marie Dompnier, since all the others are buried in Lee County (formerly Moore County) NC.
The Washington DC events helped track them (once I started looking there) and finding Fanchette's marriage was important since my mother could only tell me that her Aunt's name was "Tante" (Fanchette died 3 years before Mama was born, so she never knew her.)
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edintone, @RobertJackson58585858 @genchat @genchat #genchat I have a pair of cousins who both emigrated with their families from #Bedfordshire / #Northamptonshire to #NewYork via #Liverpool in 1830 and 1846. Both groups travelled on the same named ship - The Courier, but it appears the two ships were actually different vessels. The cost and logistics of the journey seem to have been quite an achievement at this distance.
genchat, @edintone @RobertJackson58585858 @genchat Good morning, Graham! #genchat
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genchat, @RobertJackson58585858 @edintone @genchat Michael last night mentioned funeral guest books as well. I still have to go through my parents' books. #genchat
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BRMiller, I'm fond of newspaper local Social Columns. One Sunday luncheon listed my 4-year-old Mom with her hosting aunt/uncle, her parents, those grandparents and all other aunts/uncles on that line (with spouses!), and the widowed/childless sister of that grandmother, since they were the only surviving siblings of their family.
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edintone, One more thought on #FANs I'm a fan of #MemoryKeeper as it handles genealogy facts, information and context as just that, without being constrained to immediately attach them to a family. Something that most genealogy programs don't allow you to do. It is also good for broader historical research too. It's free and you can get it here https://clsturgeon.github.io/MemoryKeeper/ @geneadons @genealogy #genchat @clsturgeon @genchat
edintone, @genchat You can imports a Gedcom and add all that 'fluffy stuff" that doesn't quite fit anywhere yet! #MemoryKeeper
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RobertJackson58585858, And, obvs, old address books ... one of my Arizonan 2c's had her nana's address book from her arrival through Ellis Island around 1913.
It had names and addresses of her two siblings shipped out to Canada by John Middlemore Homes to work on farms. And of their families.
Don't update/filter the hand written address books too much!!
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genchat, @edintone @genchat Which is actually what makes #genealogy so much fun! #genchat
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genchat, @RobertJackson58585858 @genchat Sometimes those surname variations can really get you! #genchat
RobertJackson58585858, This was a William Samuel Powell masquerading as Benjamin ... I was hoping this William fellah might have been an uncle ... a brother of Ben's father ... as I couldn't get back before Ben's father.
No such luck, obviously. All pre DNA.
Of course, Ben might not have wanted the rating office to know he owned both places, maybe??
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RobertJackson58585858, In the UK, as not really published, I'd be inclined to think old newspaper reports of major tax irregularities becoming scandalous ... that sort of thing.
On the other hand our local taxes (Rates, Poll Tax, Community charge) do have some published records eg on Ancestry but they might fall under land taxes and the like.
genchat, @RobertJackson58585858 @genchat It counts! I'm using the phrase "tax records" very broadly. #genchat
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RobertJackson58585858, I haven't/didn't.
Around 10/15 years ago two acquaintances of mine went (both lived in Gloucestershire) when I was just dabbling. It sounded really impressive both in terms of what they told me about the event and that they, two elderly widows, chose to travel to Utah.
Both were involved with a couple of one name studies in addition to their own trees.