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#genchat @genchat Before I leave, Jan had dropped a load of interesting links that I wanted to share with you:
Ellis Island research guide
https://www.statueofliberty.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Passenger-Search-TipsTricks-1.pdf

And Joe Beine's guide germanroots.com/passengers.html
Be on the lookout for the lists that say who is the relative in the old country and who the passenger is going to meet! Then look for those people and others in the #FAN.

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Will catch up later ... an excellent thread today ... thank you all!

Have a good fortnight (or so).

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Q5 - a biggie is explained by a Genealogy Note from Prologue Magazine - American women marrying immigrants could lose their own native citizenship!
https://www.archives.gov/files/publications/prologue/2014/spring/citizenship.pdf

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@BRMiller @genchat Yes, I've seen some posts written by @legalgenealogist about that! #genchat

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A5 #genchat @genchat A few examples from last night:
Jan - Quotas! See the Immigration Act of 1924. https://history.state.gov/milestones/1921-1936/immigration-act#:~:text=The%20Immigration%20Act%20of%201924%20limited%20the%20number%20of%20immigrants,of%20the%201890%20national%20census

Chris - There was a quota put in place in the late 1920s by the US government that really hampered chain migration. Didn't stop some people...

Me - I was also reading about the Chinese exclusion act & how they had to try to work around it. Probably should have saved the link

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The 'Pieces of History" blog at the US National Archives has several posts on the history of "control" of Chinese Immigration. Use "Chinese" in the search box.

https://prologue.blogs.archives.gov/

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A5 @genchat Of course, specific laws vary by country, but I wouldn't be surprised that many are similar.

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@genchat @genchat and linguistics research shows that migration has been a feature of human existence for a long time. Some 'nations' are of course exist largely as a consequence.

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@edintone @genchat Oh, linguistics! I didn't even think of that!

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Q5 #genchat What kinds of changes in the law affected chain migration? @genchat

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Stretching "Law" ... change in government policy to subsidised migration ... £10 passages from England to Australia in the 1960s.

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A4 #genchat @genchat some answers from last night:
Jan - Tip: Use Stephen P. Morse's One-Step Web Pages to look for Associated Passengers (on the same ticket) during some periods of immigration through Ellis Island.
https://stevemorse.org/ellis2/ellisgold.html

Heather - the focus on who people know - their neighbors, their cousins, their friends - build community. It can help you focus your research. If you encounter a brick wall with one ancestor, using this method might help you uncover more information through another person.

Chris - Letters, stories passed down. Sometimes friends are sponsors on Naturalization papers.

Me - neighborhood/community mapping of FANs can be an indicator of chain migration

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Stories passed down are important for my French cluster; Tony Belllet is my GGF.
Took me forever to find the burial of Marie Dompnier, since all the others are buried in Lee County (formerly Moore County) NC.
The Washington DC events helped track them (once I started looking there) and finding Fanchette's marriage was important since my mother could only tell me that her Aunt's name was "Tante" (Fanchette died 3 years before Mama was born, so she never knew her.)

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Q4 How does FAN research assist in chain migration research? @genchat

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A3b @genchat Other responses from last night: letters, draft cards

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A3b @genchat One thing I thought about is DNA markers & where they're distributed (Ancestry's Communities?). You may see concentrations of certain markers in places.

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Oh - if I said good morning & it's not morning where you are, please forgive me; my coffee hasn't kicked in yet! @genchat

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ICEBreaker @genchat (Running late today!)

My chain migrants were during the 1880s/early 90s from France; 1st was eldest child Françoise Joséphine Gonella leaving France as a maid with a family going to America in 1884; no passenger list or immigration entry found (since she was a servant it's attached to her employer's record, and we don't know those).

2 years later "Fanchette" marries in Washington DC and her 2nd brother Joseph arrives in New York City. 1/

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@BRMiller Good morning, Betsy! & yes, that sounds like classic chain migration. @genchat

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Q3b Beyond immigration records, what are some other indicators of chain migration? @genchat

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Obituaries in newspapers. My New Zealand groups are blessed with access to the NZ free online newspapers. Several have stories or summaries of their migration attached/included.

Also newspaper reports of "after dinner" talks given about their arrival.

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@RobertJackson58585858 @genchat That is a good one, since obits often list locations of survivors or other significant people at funerals. #genchat

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A3a @genchat Some examples from last night were: pages of the censuses (showing neighbors who they may have known in the old country), newspapers, letters, family stories, naturalization records

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@genchat @genchat on newspapers, I only recently discovered the free NYShistoricnewspapers site which complements some of the commercial newspaper sites. Quite a treasure trove as often reports are copied or syndicated from one title to another. #NewYork #newspapers #genchat

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@edintone @genchat That is an awesome site. Have you used "Old Fulton Postcards" newspaper site? They have even more pages than the US Library of Congress. #genchat

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Yes ... I now recall ... The other ship was the Birman.

Unfortunately on a later voyage the Martha Ridgeway sank :((

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