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nbailey, to green in Would You Rather Give Up Meat Or Flying For The Environment?
@nbailey@lemmy.ca avatar

If I got 3x the vacation time from work to let me travel by oceanliner or airship I’d happily stop flying — but that would never happen. So instead we just have to use discretion for both. Eat more mushrooms & beans; take trips closer to home by rail. And yes once in a while enjoy a nice steak or take a trip overseas. Moderation is key.

Zorque,

It must be nice to have a robust public transit system...

AnonTwo, to green in Would You Rather Give Up Meat Or Flying For The Environment?

The goalpost for individuals is pushed further to make up for what corporations are doing, which is...(reads notes)...nothing.

kilgore,

Came here to essentially say this. Our individual contributions are meaningless in the face of the abuses by corporations and wealthy individuals.

lightstream,

Do you vote? Because it’s the same principle - how one person votes might be irrelevant, but millions of people voting is powerful. This is true even though corporations have outsized influence on the political process.

Likewise, a single person deciding to not eat meat one day a week or replace one car journey with cycling is nothing in the global scheme of things, but a billion people all doing it will have more impact on the environment than any corporation ever could.

kilgore,

I see your point, though I think the comparison isn’t quite accurate. My one vote doesn’t get canceled out many times over by the vote of a billionaire (though I suppose you could argue that lobbying by that billionaire could indeed cancel it out.

I guess I’m just growing pessimistic. For as much as I personally do, I feel its a drop in the water that is negated 1000 times over by corporations and wealthy individuals. I’m also tired of the narrative being focused on individual effort instead of pressuring corporations etc. to take more responsibility. But both individual and corporate/government action are needed, I suppose, if we’re going to save ourselves…

TheBurlapBandit,

That billionaire doing the right thing is going to force the same lifestyle changes anyway. Meat tycoon shuts down operations. Now no meat is available for purchase- vegan is the only option. Coal plants shut down. Blackout hours are enforced while battery infrastructure catches up. Auto makers shut down operations. Public transit is clogged until capacity increases, more people start biking. Airlines drastically cut available flights. No long distance travel for you until high speed rail can be built. Shipping magnates vessels are decommissioned. Many goods are either more expensive or entirely unavailable.

kilgore,

I agree! And I think that’s the only way we’ll actually get a critical mass of people to change their ways.

catarina,
catarina avatar

Yeah, but all the people taking multiple flights a year for weekend getaways aren't solely the responsibility of the "corporations", are they?

itchy_lizard,

That’s not true. Corporations concede nothing until forced. And many countries are foceing corporations to do things.

For example, it’s illegal in many countries for corporations to have short-distance flights where a train route is available.

We need more laws like this and corporations will do better.

uwe,

I keep reading that. But it’s not that simple. Corporations provide what individuals want. Their exploitation of the world’s resources and the damage to the climate is a side product of that. They aren’t a completely separate entity that do what they do just to be evil.

Governments need to heavily restrict corps and how they operate. Which will come with increased prices and limitations to the people. Which is unpopular and will mean that those politicians won’t get back into office…

Which is why nothing will happen and we are all fucked

Midnitte, to vegan in A High Seafood Diet May Expose You To Large Amounts Of 'Forever Chemicals'

It is also high in heavy metals due to bioaccumulation.

KevonLooney, to vegan in Lidl Announces Huge Increase In Plant-Based Food Sales

“Plant based foods”? Fruits, vegetables, oils, nuts, grains? That’s most foods.

Just make your own food people.

Dindonmasker,
@Dindonmasker@sh.itjust.works avatar

Most people are used to include meats in their recipes so having exactly what they want but vegan is extremely useful. We need more vegan foods shaped like what people are looking for. I would love to see a seitan chicken breast next to the dead bird one because it shows people it exists and it works in what they are making and it’s good!

tkohldesac,
@tkohldesac@lemmy.world avatar

This is how my family is. I ate meat for every meal for every day of my life for damn near 30 years before I switched to vegetarian. The thought of eating meat makes me sick to my stomach after a few years as a vegetarian but sometimes I just feel like a breaded chicken patty and the plant based option scratches that itch.

Sizzler, to vegan in Lidl Announces Huge Increase In Plant-Based Food Sales

Is it me or are they always sold out? Never seem to find any at my local.

rbn,

In different European countries, I so far always had a good selection at Lidl. If it’s always the same store maybe point it out to a manager. If it’s constantly sold-out they might be interested as well to order some extra portions…

Dindonmasker, to vegan in Lidl Announces Huge Increase In Plant-Based Food Sales
@Dindonmasker@sh.itjust.works avatar

My mother is always telling me how she can’t buy the vegan alternatives for everyone all the time so she buys me my portions and the rest isn’t always vegan. If the prices where matched it would change everything. Maybe i should tell her i will pay to match the prices.

lens17,

Don’t remember if it was a short-time thing, but Lidl did promise once to match the prices between plant-based and non-plant-based products.

Flughoernchen,

Here in Germany some plant-based products are now cheaper than the omni equivalents, because prices for the latter increased since the adaption.

Anamana,

Aldi also significantly dropped prices here (Austria) on plant based products, so I feel like it’s coming along

mildbeard, to vegan in World Health Organization Calls For Experts To Design ‘Optimal’ Dietary Guidelines

So the world health organization is trying to figure out the optimal ratio of animal products to plant products in the diet.

I can save them a lot of time. The optimal ratio of animal products is 0%, to 100% plant products. Of course, you really should supplement vitamin B12 and a few other things. But there’s no doubt about what the optimal ratio of animal to plant products in your diet is.

homesweethomeMrL, to vegan in Eat At Least 75% Plant-Based Foods, Say Germany’s New Dietary Guidelines

Looks like 90% from the graphic.

Ultragigagigantic, (edited ) to vegan in Eat At Least 75% Plant-Based Foods, Say Germany’s New Dietary Guidelines
@Ultragigagigantic@lemmy.world avatar

If you really gave a shit, make vegan food free and solve hunger at the same time.

meeshen,

non-vegan food isn’t free either yet ppl continue to eat it

grow up

jerkface,
@jerkface@lemmy.ca avatar

Who are you talking to??

aibler,

Translation: “Due to my inability to change any of my life-long habits, I compulsively ingest aged, blended, tortured pig scraps because that’s what the sexy girls on the tv do. Anyone I think is suggesting that this may not be the most clever way to live gets sprayed with whatever idiotic words come to my brain first.”

314xel, to vegan in Eat At Least 75% Plant-Based Foods, Say Germany’s New Dietary Guidelines
@314xel@lemmy.world avatar

Nice try, but you don’t fool me, BigPlanta!

Flughoernchen, to vegan in Eat At Least 75% Plant-Based Foods, Say Germany’s New Dietary Guidelines

And the “debate” around it goes something like: “It’s now forbidden to eat Schnitzel!! Entirely!!1! We won’t take this paternalism anymore!11!!!” As always, it’s just a few people but they’re soo loud. It’s exhausting.

jupyter_rain,

It’s like you suggest that punching yourself in the face is not a recommended practice and people are angry, wanting to punch themselves in the face so bad.

ReakDuck,

Yeah, there are always loud people that attack everything they were used to. Its hard for them to accept that they didn’t lived perfect

DosDude, to vegan in South Africa Rules That Vegan Meat Cannot Be Seized From Supermarket Shelves
@DosDude@retrolemmy.com avatar

How dare they call this no meat sausage a sausage! Seize the products!

I don’t know what’s happening there, but I hope their government gets replaced with people who have better priorities next election. Thankfully their high court doesn’t have their head up their own asses in this instance.

KyuubiNoKitsune,

We’ve needed a new political party since the end of Mandelas 4 year term. Fucking useless and corrupt ANC have destroyed my home country.

Dindonmasker,
@Dindonmasker@sh.itjust.works avatar

Someone forgot to bribe the high court again. XD

pescetarian,
@pescetarian@lemmy.ml avatar

😁😁😁

Beaver, to vegan in Protein Found In Meat Linked To Increased Risk Of Arthritis
@Beaver@lemmy.ca avatar

Another reason I’m grateful I stopped eating that nasty flesh.

athairmor,

They’re talking about tryptophan—an amino acid, not a protein as the article calls it.

You’ll have to avoid tofu, quinoa, chia seeds, flax seeds and lots of nuts, too.

There’s as much tryptophan in 1/2 cup of tofu as in 3 ounces of roast pork.

Ava, to usnews in 'Groundbreaking' Vote To Ban Factory Farming To Be Held In US County

The proposed penalties seem low to me. A max of $3.65M annually for operating means that so long as your operations in the county make more net profit than that, there’s no reason to leave. It seems to me that by merging any smaller operations, one could end up with a large enough operation to make that math work pretty trivially. Hell, for all I know even a rather small operation could be making that much.

Given that this was an activist-driven ballot initiative, it confuses me why they’re not simply basing the fines on profits…

jarfil,

Unfortunately many “activist-driven” initiatives, turn out to benefit more larger corporations, rather than either smaller owners, or the activists themselves.

We’re having a similar issue in the EU, where several months of “activist-driven” initiatives and protests, have resulted in regulation modificatios mainly benefitting large corporations, while actually hurting the activists themselves. 🤷

delirious_owl, to green in 'Groundbreaking' Vote To Ban Factory Farming To Be Held In US County
@delirious_owl@discuss.online avatar

This is good and necessary, but it does feel pretty NIMBY unless they ban restaurants and markets from selling factory farmed meat shipped in from other counties as well

Plastic_Ramses, (edited )

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PsychedSy,

No more seasonal workers, either.

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