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RootBeerGuy, to europe in Tesla threatens to bring in strikebreakers as Swedish workers strike
@RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Fighting the Unions in Sweden. Good fucking luck, better prepare to pack your bags and leave.

Ordoabchao,
Ordoabchao avatar

The Nordic countries make up five of the top six most unionized countries, with Sweden being in 3rd place.

Good luck beating them, Tesla! You're gonna need it.

Chariotwheel,

As the articles says

Around 90 percent of employees in Sweden are covered by a collective bargaining agreement

And while Tesla doesn't have to fight 90 percent of all employess yet. If they're bringing in strikebreakers all unions must act to not let a prescedence happen.

Not only their own employees would strike, but also employees of suppliers and everything that is connected to Tesla so nothing will reach the company unless Elon personally swings into a truck and drives the stuff into his factories.

CAVOK,

Unionized and in the automotive sector. Would 100% strike in support of the Tesla workers. I’d rather see Tesla leave Sweden than have them succeed in this.

SuckMyWang, (edited )

This is where the game of chicken is. The only question it boils down to is does Elon love winning pointless battles that require self sacrifice or does he love money? It’s a hard question tbh but I think deep down we know he’s a money grub as a priority, in which case he’ll cave and compromise to keep selling cars in Sweden

barsoap,

I don’t know about Sweden but bringing in scabs is generally illegal in Germany. That is, you can’t bring in temporaries, you can, of course, hire more people but then you’ll have to keep them, and of course they can strike.

Amazon was quite successful keeping unions out here because the kind of people they employ aren’t terribly union-affine, also, noone wants to stay at amazon anyway, but Tesla? A car manufacturer up against IG Metall? In East Germany? Tesla can either cave, leave, or get beaten into submission.

Don_alForno, to europe in How the Sweden Democrats' 'troll factory' tries to shape the immigration debate

This same shit appears to happen all over Europe in small variations and it works every single time. Their followers don’t even blink anymore when the lies are exposed.

Valmond, (edited ) to europe in How the Sweden Democrats' 'troll factory' tries to shape the immigration debate

Like the 0.04% of immigrants make crimes versus 0.01% of “swedes”, what is the government doing?!!!

Foure times more, amiright?!

Turn it around : 99.96% of immigrants are lawful versus 99.99% of “swedes”, what is the government doing?!!!

Bet they are paid by the Kremlin just to fuck things up.

Edit: just FYI it’s the far right racist party

dojan, (edited ) to europe in How the Sweden Democrats' 'troll factory' tries to shape the immigration debate
@dojan@lemmy.world avatar

“I expect them to show us what they’ve done and apologise if they have smeared others. I expect nothing less than that,” he added.

Spineless milquetoast cunt. They’re undermining democracy and he wants a “sowwy we pwomise we won’t do it again uwu”

Obviously he won’t do shit about it since he and his cronies need the Nazi support to remain in power, and clearly that matters more than the integrity of the government.

There’s no such thing as a good politician.

CAVOK,

“Syltrygg!”

florge, to andfinally in Swedish girl granted unicorn ownership permit from the county just in time for Christmas

Love the mother’s response, running out of reasons why it won’t be her fault when her daughter doesn’t get a unicorn for Christmas.

Emperor,
@Emperor@feddit.uk avatar

You can imagine her running through her excuses and people messing with her:

“Sorry dear you need a permit” - local county provides permit.

“Urm, we’d need stables” - nearby farm.offers a spare barn.

“There’s a question of feeding it” - the Rainbows and Marshmallow Food Company declare their readiness to help,

“I… ah… you can’t buy one, it has to be won in a mystical contest” - South Korean genetics laboratory making important announcement.

Crackhappy, to andfinally in Swedish girl granted unicorn ownership permit from the county just in time for Christmas
@Crackhappy@lemmy.world avatar

Wonderful! Thank you!

Name, to europe in Swedish government's bid to revoke permits for foreigners with 'flawed way of life'

The fascism is growing within the government. They have been wild with both insane but legal and insane and illegal proposals these last few weeks.

Pantherina, to lemmybewholesome in Heartwarming story about Gothenburg's public library goes viral

Idk I dont find this story wholesome?

“Nothing was destroyed”, okay wow why should people just destroy nice things?

Its sick that we think this is strange

Zink, to lemmybewholesome in Heartwarming story about Gothenburg's public library goes viral

As an American who got to visit Sweden earlier this year, it was so refreshing and eye-opening to see how they treat people and property around them with dignity and respect.

It’s probably similar in a lot of Europe, but I did the speed run version going straight from the US to Scandinavia.

quarry_coerce248, to europe in Heartwarming story about Gothenburg's public library goes viral

On one hand, yes good news people use a library for library things. On the other hand, is that the bar for human behavior now? Not to be, I don’t know, looting and burning books as soon as the staff is missing?

CAVOK,

Sadly yes, as illustrated by the fact that this is even a story. We shouldn’t be surprised that humans can behave themselves, yet here we are…

Turun,

What is a reasonable bar for human behavior? Would it be reasonable for 1% of people to have library destroying tendencies? What about 0.1%?
If it’s more than 0.2% it would have been expected for at least one of the 400 people to do something bad.

humanplayer2, to tech in Swedish port workers, electricians and cleaners pledge to join strike against Tesla
@humanplayer2@lemmy.ml avatar

I hope Denmark follows suit. This is a great initiative!

pragmakist, to tech in Swedish port workers, electricians and cleaners pledge to join strike against Tesla
pragmakist avatar

Mr Musk is trying to figure out how to get in worse trouble than what he's already in with Twitter?

SlikPikker, to europe in Tesla threatens to bring in strikebreakers as Swedish workers strike

I saw this and laughed.

Bring it you dumb shit. See what happens.

Wirrvogel, to europe in Tesla threatens to bring in strikebreakers as Swedish workers strike

“If they start employing strikebreakers and actively try to break the strike, then they have mobilised the entire union movement against them. Not just the Swedish Trade Union Confederation, but all of them. Then the issue at hand becomes less important.”

I can already see the German IG Metall union grinning and looking at the new Tesla factory in Germany. I would be careful if I were Tesla. Unions in Europe are extremely well connected.

CapeWearingAeroplane,

I just love the feeling of union collectives banding together. Reminds me of a situation in Norway a couple years back where doctors wanted to strike: Now they’re essential workers, and can legally be prevented from striking by the government, so the union collective said “lol get fucked” and put a shitload of engineers from the offshore industry on strike instead. The doctors pretty quickly got what they wanted, and everybody got to see why we have to work together across sectors.

lud,

Absolutely.

The Swedish Transport union, called “Transport” has already announced solidarity actions starting November 7, the actions include refusing to unload Tesla’s from ships.

The transport union has said that they have a lot more cards to play if they need too, but want to keep it a surprise. But actions would probably include refusing to deliver anything to Tesla.

MonkderZweite, to europe in Tesla threatens to bring in strikebreakers as Swedish workers strike

tf is a strike breaker. A tazer?

Redrum714,

Temp workers that replace the jobs on strike

Sidyctism,

Aka scabs

A2PKXG,
@A2PKXG@feddit.de avatar

Huh. I’m all for strikes, but scabs should be allowed in my opinion.

Empricorn,

Uh, they are “allowed”. As in they’re legal. But they’re disgusting bootlickers siding with oppressive giant corporations over worker’s rights. So often, they’ll be ostracized by family and friends, as they should be. That’s allowed too.

stilgar,
@stilgar@infosec.pub avatar

Look up the meaning of solidarity.

RubberElectrons,
@RubberElectrons@lemmy.world avatar

Why? Scabs give a lot less of a shit about quality, and we’re taking about a 4000lb (1800kg) vehicle at highway speeds.

Think about that, aside from wanting regular folks to succeed while working for a wealthy, well-lawyered multinational car corporation.

camelCaseGuy,

You know, most countries that have strike laws forbid this. In Spain, for instance, if the workers are on a strike, the company is forbidden to replace those positions in a strike. Neither with temporary, nor people from other places. And the company cannot fire them. Basically it’s a shackle, either you solve your strike or you are out of business.

JokeDeity,

Good thing Elon has never broken the law in full view of everyone.

Hamartiogonic,
@Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz avatar

Elon should build a factory in Spain. I really want to see how that works out.

camelCaseGuy,

It could work surprisingly well at some extent. I mean, Spaniards are hard labouring people and they put hours to work. But they also like to live the life (you know, paella, siesta and stuff). So the first couple of times it may come to pass, but things may hit the fan really quickly.

Also, cheap labour force and laws very favourable for the employer.

Hamartiogonic,
@Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz avatar

Things might roll along smoothly until the old contract expires and it’s time to negotiate a new one between the unions and employers. That’s when things could get spicy. Tesla demands that the employees are treated as slaves and company property, while the unions demand proper wages, maternity leave, siestas and lots of other things. Obviously, Tesla isn’t going to agree to any of that, and the feeling will be mutual on both sides of the table. Usually this results in a strike, and now we’re talking about a spicy turn of events. Can’t wait to see how Tesla would handle that.

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