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netchami, to firefox in Google slows down Firefox users when watching YouTube....

Use Piped or Invidious, it also bypasses ads and tracking. It works best in combination with LibRedirect, which you can configure to automatically redirect all YouTube links to Piped or Invidious.

Dumbkid,

Can I set this up so I can still browse my YouTube recommended and only redirect when I select the actual video?

netchami,

You can exclude youtube.com in the LibRedirect settings. For some reason that doesn’t seem to work though, but you can always click on the LibRedirect icon in the extension toolbar and hit ‘Redirect to Original’. You can also set up a keybinding for that.

massive_bereavement,
massive_bereavement avatar

Freetube has been the biggest life improvement on how I consume YouTube. The fact that it gets better recommendations and I can list my subscriptions in an easy way, even import them is something I miss in all the rest of alternatives.

sxan,
@sxan@midwest.social avatar

Between FreeTube and NewPipe, I haven’t visited YouTube in about a year. It makes it a bit surreal when I see so many complaints about ads.

massive_bereavement,
massive_bereavement avatar

Then I use someone else's laptop or phone and see the amount of ads everywhere and how much time is taking away from them.
How can one put up with that..

verysoft,

I'd use FreeTube, but the quality was not as good as on YouTube itself, has that changed?

sxan,
@sxan@midwest.social avatar

I don’t know. For any given video? I’ve seen high res options, but TBH I don’t watch much on YT - certainly not movies, or anything that’d really matter - and don’t pay much attention to it.

It’s free, if you want to check out how the current version works.

verysoft,

Yeah, just gave it a shot. I'm just too accustomed to YTs quality that the drop just isn't worth to me, at least while I'm still not ad-block blocked.

sxan,
@sxan@midwest.social avatar

What’s the drop in quality you see? Is there an example video? I can’t detect a difference.

verysoft,

It only supports up to 1080p/60fps, most videos I watch these days have 1440p or more, so the increased bitrate immediately makes the videos look a lot more crisp. For just a side to side 1080p comparison, there isn't much difference, just some more artifacting on the edges of things (not really that noticable). Maybe due to the YT stream being VP9 and FreeTube AVC? I don't really know to be honest.

sxan,
@sxan@midwest.social avatar

Oh, maybe that’s it. I don’t think I have any devices in the house capable of displaying more that 1080p, and I don’t use YouTube for any content where that’d matter. That’s interesting, though; I wonder if that’s a limitation enforced by YT on third party apps.

verysoft,

The higher resolutions on YT have higher bitrate, so even on a 1080p screen the 1440p and 4K options look a lot better.

Pertes,

Any difference between Piped and NewPipe?

netchami,

NewPipe is an Android app that allows you to watch YouTube videos without ads or tracking. It exposes your IP to Google servers though. Piped consists of a web client and a backend server, it uses the NewPipeExtractor on the server to load the video as well as all the metadata from Google servers and then serves it to you through the web client. That way, you don’t have to connect to Google, only the Piped server communicates with YouTube servers.

AbidanYre, (edited ) to linux in Revive That Old Computer With AntiX Linux

And if your computer can’t even handle that, there’s always Tiny Core.

My 25 year old PII with 192MB of RAM is surprisingly responsive with TCL.

AnUnusualRelic,
@AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world avatar

Oooh, I have an old Vaio PictureBook Id like to eventually revive. Currently it’s running a very old Mandrake from that time (with KDE). Not sure if I can fit something more modern on it.

AbidanYre, (edited )

Looks like it would work. I did have an adapter lying around that let me use a CF card instead of a spinning disk, so that helped.

The biggest hassle was getting the thing to start because boot from USB didn’t really exist back then so I had to burn a CD and the drive on that machine is kind of flaky these days.

Though I will say that it’s not exactly usable. Pretty much any website makes it grind to a halt. But it’s good right up until then.

AnUnusualRelic,
@AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world avatar

That machine was quite annoying because it refused to boot off anything other than its internal disk or an external floppy i.e. no USB sticks, despite it having a USB port. Even back then, stuff was mostly coming out on ISOs for CDs and floppies were phased out. Nowadays it’ll probably require a bit of tinkering (and I’ll have to find a floppy).

AbidanYre,

Oof. Yeah, that would be tough.

I think I have a floppy or two around, but the only drive for them is on that machine and I wasn’t really willing to put any money into the project.

ToxicWaste, to firefox in Google slows down Firefox users when watching YouTube....

Guys relax. Most of the ‘research’ comes from this reddit post: old.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/…/k9w3ei4/

It points out following code in youtube’s polymer script:


<span style="color:#323232;">setTimeout(function() {
</span><span style="color:#323232;">    c();
</span><span style="color:#323232;">    a.resolve(1)
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> }, 5E3);
</span>

But exactly this code does show up on a stock installation of chrome too, and it does not check for the user agent. One of the responses goes a bit deeper into what the code above could do: old.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/…/ka08uqj/

It is rather clear, that this code is not aimed at firefox users to slow down their loading time.

7bicycles,

It is rather clear, that this code is not aimed at firefox users to slow down their loading time.

alternatively it’s just well designed

Klear,

That’s borderline persecution fetish.

frogbellyratbone_,
@frogbellyratbone_@hexbear.net avatar

you spent 20 minutes going through this while i just ran a ping test in 30 seconds

it’s real

ToxicWaste,

I know that you are memeing - but some ppl probably don’t have the background to see the difference.

A ping does not contain a http header containing a user agent. The response to a ping is not a webpage - and even if it was, your console won’t execute the JS.

dan, to firefox in Google slows down Firefox users when watching YouTube....
@dan@upvote.au avatar

Here’s the actual source: old.reddit.com/…/youtube_has_started_to_artificia…

The link in the post is just recycling the reddit content.

flx, to linux in Revive That Old Computer With AntiX Linux

Tried it on an Asus eeePC after an SSD swap, nice and kind of fun to use distro.

LeFantome, to linux in Revive That Old Computer With AntiX Linux

I have been playing around a bit with both Antix and Damn Small Linux 2 that is based on it. I have been quite impressed.

First, it is really just Debian curated to be light-weight. You have full access to all the Debian repositories.

The 32 bit versions also work great. I booted to a fully working desktop on a 32 bit system and only 84 MB of RAM was being used. On top of that I ran Firefox, LibreOffice, Scribis, GIMP, and I think other things and was still around 900 MB. It would be amazing on ancient hardware.

Quazatron, to linux in Revive That Old Computer With AntiX Linux
@Quazatron@lemmy.world avatar

My favorite way of reviving ancient 32 bit hardware is installing Haiku. It’s such a cool little OS, even if it can’t do all the tasks modern Linux can.

LeFantome,

Haiku is getting pretty nice actually. With the Falkon browser, it may be getting pretty close to daily drivable for a lot of people.

I agree that it is a cool little system. I think the 32 bit version is still compatible with BeOS though I have not tried that in a while.

Hardware support is a bigger impediment than functionality at this point.

KnightontheSun, (edited ) to linux in Revive That Old Computer With AntiX Linux

I have an old laptop with a Transmeta Crusoe CPU. Can anyone recommend a distro that will work on it? I’ll download this one and give it a shot too.

lemmyreader,

I have an old laptop with a Transmeta Crusoe CPU. Can anyone recommend a distro that will work on it? I’ll download this one and give it a shot too.

You have a computer with a CPU made by the company that Linus Torvalds worked for!

KnightontheSun,

Yes, and one of the reasons I want to keep it going. It’s an old Fujitsu and has a cool form factor (another reason). I recycled about a dozen laptops a few months back, but could not bear to see this one go. It came with XP, but I don’t care to reload that at all. Am also downloading older versions of Slack to see if they’ll work.

lemmyreader,

Yes, and one of the reasons I want to keep it going. It’s an old Fujitsu and has a cool form factor (another reason). I recycled about a dozen laptops a few months back, but could not bear to see this one go. It came with XP, but I don’t care to reload that at all. Am also downloading older versions of Slack to see if they’ll work.

👍 🐧

randomaside, to linux in Revive That Old Computer With AntiX Linux
@randomaside@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

My favorite trick to reviving old computers is trying to find ways to get them to run off of solid state storage. It really makes a huge difference. You will be surprised by how much more tolerable classic computers are when you no longer have to deal with slow storage mediums.

Mind you this doesn’t make them modern levels of fast and you no longer get the satisfaction of hearing the hard drive grinding away when you open a window but thems the tradeoffs…sigh…

Naminreb, to linux in Revive That Old Computer With AntiX Linux

This was my entry into Linux, and love it so far. My Windows 7 computer has generally been so snappy. Even without an SSD and only 4G in RAM it starts faster than my Windows 11, 32GB, i7 laptop.

lord_ryvan,

If it runs Windows 7 snappily, it’ll probably run Linux systems with XFCE or even Cinnamon perfectly well, too.

Red_sun_in_the_sky, to linux in Revive That Old Computer With AntiX Linux
@Red_sun_in_the_sky@lemmy.ml avatar

I used antix on my laptop. Very nice actually.

0x0, to linux in Revive That Old Computer With AntiX Linux

Seems like you can add MEPIS to it and get MX Linux:

The development of MX Linux is a collaborative effort between the antiX and former MEPIS communities.

Empricorn,

MX Linux is great! I didn’t think it’s recommended for super old PCs computers though…

sirico, to linux in Revive That Old Computer With AntiX Linux
@sirico@feddit.uk avatar

Runs on an 10 year old Toshiba mini NB505 Netbook

BrianTheeBiscuiteer,

Running on my Acer Aspire netbook now. Definitely slower than any modern device but when I do CLI stuff I can barely tell. Biggest gripe is the lack of systemd. Not that I like systemd, but some tools don’t get on well without it.

Ensign_Crab, to linux in Revive That Old Computer With AntiX Linux

Is it pronounced “antics” or “antiques”?

theshatterstone54,

Everyone I’ve heard mention it pronounces it as antics so I guess that’s the right one

Ensign_Crab,

Just wondering because “antiques” seems fitting given the target hardware.

lemmyreader,

Searched but can’t find it in their FAQs :) They work together with MX Linux, so personally I’d go for Anti Ex and Em Ex Linnuks.

boredsquirrel,

If they are anti X why dont they use Wayland then.

lemmyreader,

😀 Yeah right, maybe it should indeed by pronounced like something like antique /j

frogbellyratbone_, to firefox in Google slows down Firefox users when watching YouTube....
@frogbellyratbone_@hexbear.net avatar

i’ve got some irrational nerd rage going on right now reading this

less about google, more about the individuals who programmed this. holy hell

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