kravietz,
@kravietz@agora.echelon.pl avatar

has declared an intention to unilaterally extend its territorial waters on sea in a way that collides with territorial waters of and . Russian Ministry of Defense (!) proposed to cancel the 1985 decision of demarcation of the sea borders and redraw them according to “new geographical references”, and then declare them “internal waters”.

Obviously, this looks very much like a poorly disguised attempt to create an strategic dilemma for by unilaterally opening a territorial dispute with two NATO members without really invading anyone yet. In case of NATO inaction the next step will be Russian actually enforcing their “new territorial waters” by threatening or sinking ships sailing to Finland and Lithuania. And if the inaction continues, the next step will be likely establishing “new geographical references” on one of the land borders of NATO countries.

Source: https://www.moscowtimes.ru/2024/05/21/rossiya-reshila-vodnostoronnem-poryadke-sdvinut-granitsu-slitvoi-ifinlyandiei-ibaltiiskom-more-a131403 (in Russian)

joosteto,
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Meowki,
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@kravietz So long as Denmark can expand their maritime borders towards Sweden so there is no way to exit the Baltic without going through NATO territory… I guess they can have some water?

pthenq1,
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" ha declarado su intención de extender unilateralmente sus aguas territoriales en el mar de manera que colisionen con las aguas territoriales de y . El Ministerio de Defensa ruso (!) propuso cancelar la decisión de la de 1985 de demarcar las fronteras marítimas y volver a trazarlas según “nuevas referencias geográficas”, y luego declararlas “aguas interiores”.

Obviamente, esto se parece mucho a un intento mal disimulado de crear un dilema estratégico para la abriendo unilateralmente una disputa territorial con dos miembros de la OTAN sin invadir realmente a nadie todavía. En caso de inacción de la OTAN, el siguiente paso será que Rusia haga cumplir sus “nuevas aguas territoriales” amenazando o hundiendo barcos que navegan hacia Finlandia y Lituania. Y si la inacción continúa, el próximo paso probablemente será establecer “nuevas referencias geográficas” en una de las fronteras terrestres de los países de la OTAN.

Fuente: https://www.moscowtimes.ru/2024/05/21/rossiya-reshila-vodnostoronnem-poryadke-sdvinut-granitsu-slitvoi-ifinlyandiei-ibaltiiskom-more-a131403 (en ruso)"
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notsoloud,
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@kravietz
Do you know where I can find a map of the disputed regions?

kravietz,
@kravietz@agora.echelon.pl avatar

@notsoloud

Unfortunately I haven’t seen any but this is a new topic so soon someone will surely make a more detailed analysis.

belladonaa,
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@kravietz so is Russia expanding the borders near NATO? Is that what you are claiming?

michalz00,
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@belladonaa @kravietz
More like stealing land/sea.

kravietz,
@kravietz@agora.echelon.pl avatar

@belladonaa

Technically, they are not “expanding” anything yet - their Ministry of Defense merely declared an intent to remeasure Russia’s territorial waters on Baltic with “new geographic references” and their intent to declare specific areas their “internal waters” indicates they may want to expand their borders not “near” NATO but right into the territory of Finland and Latvia, for now. What they will actually do now 100% depends on NATO reaction - if it will be soft and deescalating, Russia will just move forward and escalate their revisionist demands.

belladonaa,
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@kravietz if you follow NATO s steps and their agreement with Russia then the picture will be more clear. I am not trying to convince anyone with my opinion, but of course not everyone thinks like me

kravietz,
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@belladonaa

Can you be more specific about what “NATO agreements with Russia” you’re talking about?

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