SuneAuken, Danish
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I'd better say this in English too. As a university researcher and teacher I absolutely love Wikipedia, I use it all the time, and I teach my students how to use it.

I rarely edit on the English site, but I do edit from time to time on the Danish site; sometimes extensively. And yes, those are hours well spent for a researcher and teacher.

https://mastodon.world/@SuneAuken/111731863105102913

Ruth_Mottram,
@Ruth_Mottram@fediscience.org avatar

@SuneAuken I find it interesting how my opinion of Wikipedia has more or less completely reversed over time. I agree. I think it's an amazing resource.

SuneAuken,
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@Ruth_Mottram

There are probably many reasons for such a change of heart, but at least some of it may have to do with the site improving dramatically over time.

Ruth_Mottram,
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@SuneAuken I think that really is the key! But also we've got smarter about using it. (As have students!)

emmaaum,
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@Ruth_Mottram @SuneAuken The controversy level of the subject matters a lot too. It's been good on some low stakes fact orientated subjects for years and continues to be bad for others.

SuneAuken,
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@emmaaum @Ruth_Mottram

I've mislaid a study about this somewhere ...

SuneAuken,
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@emmaaum @Ruth_Mottram

Ah yes, here it is.

This is the Wikipedia community actually getting it right on a supposedly controversial topic (this will interest you too, Ruth). I think the explanation is that the topic itself, , isn't actually controversial from a scientific point of view and thus CAN be solved under Wikipedia's Neutral Point of View-principle.

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/0047281620906150?casa_token=Iw52ngY82EAAAAAA:0IQ-jNoK23ZCptBCYdo5z7SW6vubuE6FBfm9ZU2lYUmT_Tyg9nUoGBVkMF10NtsI34rTF1CABbo

emmaaum,
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@SuneAuken Your explanation certainly fits. Meanwhile my best example of current inaccuracy (Israel and Palestine) is one where too many people are overconfident in their assessment of their understanding. Not a chance with that 🤷‍♀️

@Ruth_Mottram

SuneAuken,
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@emmaaum @Ruth_Mottram

Ah yes. And even the fact that I'm hesitant to reply to you here, because I know that you and I don't necessarily see eye-to-eye on the topic demonstrates the problem.

emmaaum,
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@SuneAuken Yep.

JulietJFall,
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@Ruth_Mottram @SuneAuken Some years, I teach my university students how to write & edit on it as part of their coursework, and this really is a super exercise for them to understand how it works, how much to trust it, and how it is produced collaboratively.

Henrysbridge,
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@JulietJFall @Ruth_Mottram @SuneAuken

Yes, I tutor a course on science communication. One of the most important parts of this is a peer-review exercise, demonstrating how (though imperfect) this process keeps science "honest" and credible.

martinvermeer,
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@Henrysbridge @JulietJFall @Ruth_Mottram @SuneAuken Absolutely no compunction about richly using and referencing WP in my textbooks. Like

https://aaltodoc.aalto.fi/items/17184a1b-dd52-470c-a7b2-9faf536a9a2c

SuneAuken,
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@martinvermeer @Henrysbridge @JulietJFall @Ruth_Mottram

I need to add this to my profile here.

SuneAuken,
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tired_angry,

@SuneAuken @Henrysbridge @martinvermeer @JulietJFall @Ruth_Mottram
If one sees something which one knows to be incorrect on Wikipedia then it is surely one’s duty to get in there and fix, i.e. edit, it. Rather than complaining that Wikipedia is full of incorrect information 🤷‍♂️
Unless one has their vpn turned on and so Wikipedia won’t let one in to edit it so, of course you’ll come back later. Of course you will 😬😗

SuneAuken,
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@tired_angry @Henrysbridge @martinvermeer @JulietJFall @Ruth_Mottram

And over time sometimes you even DO come back, and Wikipedia is better for it.

martinvermeer,
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