@jens that’s a very one-sided perspective. In parts of the world such as Kenya, activism and public communication still happen very much on Twitter. As long as that’s the case, I’ll (also) still be there, at least partially.
@jens are going to tell this to the millions of Africans, Black Americans and other marginalised groups who are still on Twitter, too? I’d suggest you try to improve your understanding of the whole situation a bit. There have been numerous threads here and elsewhere on this issue.
@jens You're telling millions of people, including members of highly marginalised groups, that they're basically all Nazis because they're still on a platform where Nazi participation is growing, but not often very visible for other users who don't follow such. Sorry but no.
@jens Citing your first tweet: "If you have one Nazi sitting at a table talking to 10 other people, then you've got a table with 11 Nazis", where the "table" was clearly meant to be Twitter.
(The comparison doesn't work, because Twitter is a very different kind of platform than a table for 11 people.)
@jens you seem to assume that 1. Twitter itself are Nazis, and 2. that all people on it are paying for it. Whether Musk himself is a straight-out Nazi is debatable, but most people in most of the world is would probably argue that he isn’t.
The 2. assumption is wrong.
Besides, do you also tell all Germans to emigrate because as taxpayers they’re indirectly funding the AFD?
@jens well your stance that your way to see the situation is the only correct one, and everything else is nazi, is very self-righteous. And given the context, which was Africans and other marginalised groups still being on Twitter (and with no viable alternatives to move to), I’d say it’s outright racist.
@jens this is not at all true, as is clearly visible from my responses on this thread. It’s clear to me though that it’s not worth continuing this discussion indeed, as you refuse to at least try to see the perspective I’m trying to provide.
@jens the question is how, what to do concretely? Is evading/quiting a battlefield enough for the battle, not to take place?
As the book Shadow Network (Anne Nelson) demonstrate it, not being right doesn't necessarily makes you lose the battle and without reaching out to everyone concerned, voter apathy might very well work in the favor of the MAGA swarm for the next electoral round.
@jens without dismantling the CNP and the shadow network that funds these fundamentalists, without knowing exactly how they work and crafted their infrastructure, how do you plan to use the pitchforks?
@jens burning Twitter down, even in a accelerated fashion, isn't and wouldn't be a guarantee that the fundamentalist network don't disrupt the elections at several level of power and even manage to conquer new seats and ultimately do even more damage, that the Trump admin already did and enabled for decades to come.
@jens this means civil war. Because that's what Shadow Network (the book) Indicate, they have been crafting a network, right under everyone nose and now it's ripe to takeover but if they do so, it will be equal to a declaration of war, the question is : is the progressive swarm ready to fight back, yes a minority, but not the vast majority, light years away from really taking the measure of the risk. Boiling frogs in boiling water image comes to mind.
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