OC Quick, make as many Magazines as possible!

And then have no activity in them. Not quite sure why this is happening, is it power hungry idiots thinking if I make fifty magazines, maybe one will be popular?

Do people assume if they create a magazine, it becomes active as if by magic?

Or are people thinking this is similar to a new game of Pokémon, and they have to make all the magazines?

I find it baffling that those who have created many magazines are not active.

Hyggyldy,

I thought about trying to make one but realized I despise responsibility.

KnittingTrekker,
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I feel you! I am in the same headspace right now

Jupeter,
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I respect that so much. Despising responsibility I mean.

niktemadur,
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Let's flip a little something, just for the hell of it, see how it looks and sounds:

I despise that so much. Respecting responsibility.

Nah. Kinda weird.
Anyway! Carry on, then!

sheepyowl,

Only those who feel obliged to act responsibly despise responsibility.

gk99,

That's a pleasant compliment lol

isdfoa,

Lol same here, I made a community and then realized it is so much effort to get it kick-started (posting a lot of content relevant content there continuously to attract people to join). So I kind of abandoned it and decided to post/comment a lot on existing communities instead.

isa,

Same here... And at the same time I'm languishing over the fact that I want to talk about the thing, but there is no magazine for it....

LeafyPasserine,
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I did post to m/fountainpens precisely because it was there, so it kind of is a bit of a "build and hope they come" situation. I just wish these people would just bother to actually build the community. A welcome post. Some articles. Anything!

riskable,
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It's always the same story with you pen people! Always waiting for Mr/Mrs Write to just magically show up.

unfnknblvbl,

m/AngryUpvote

dairokkan,
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Interesting, m/MAGAZINENAME links don't work.

BaldProphet,
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I haven't had a lot of time to write welcome posts, but I made one for /m/aquariums and I've been working on specifying some basic rules for the magazines I've made. But yea, definitely "build it and they will come" mentality going on.

SpacemanSpiff, (edited )
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Just as a PSA to everyone, they actually do populate automatically with microblog posts (from Mastodon for example) if you add relevant tags to the magazine.

I’ve had a couple issues posting picture threads so I suspect that’s why some are dark.

In any case, gotta remember it’s not like all the content is generated by the mod. Find something you like, start adding content. People will start to snowball in once your posts land in “new”.

FrostBolt,
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they actually do populate automatically with microblog posts (from Mastodon for example) if you add relevant tags

Thank you! This is a great piece of info to know.

olrik,
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populate automatically with microblog posts

Do they really? I guess I must have setup wrong tags as on the magazine I created so far no microblog has appeared. I thought maybe it was because of the cloudfare protection which seems to also block posts from other federated sites such as lemmy instances.

KoreanPerson,

I'm pretty sure kbin isn't connected to the federverse rn. according to ernest's latest post on kbinmeta

SpacemanSpiff,
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You might be right about the Cloudflare DDoS protection may be messing with it, I haven’t checked recently. I’d keep an eye on it once Ernest is able to remove that.

KoreanPerson,

How do you search the popular tags? I made a korean language magazine and wondering which is more commonly used between "language" or "languages"

also, what are badges? I see that next to the option to add tags to a magazine

SpacemanSpiff,
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I know you can search tags using the search function on the top bar. It not only pulls tags but also is a keyword search I believe. (Someone correct me if that’s wrong).

I’m actually not 100% sure how badges work yet, I haven’t used them myself.

BaldProphet,
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Badges are like the post flairs in Reddit.

reflex, (edited )
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  • SpacemanSpiff,
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    I don’t believe that was me, but it sounds like they had good taste in comic strips! ;)

    I do use the same username many places though and have for a long while.

    niktemadur,
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    Most people who landed on Reddit found not just a place for their interests and questions, but a community already there, already active. People entered a hive of discussion and narratives already in progress.

    Here and now, there is fumbling in the dark to be expected, and with no muscle memory of this, so far much quieter place, which has the drywall and plumbing and electrical still a bit exposed.

    Anomander,
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    There's also a surge of folks understanding that the communities they loved might become inaccessible via Reddit fuckery, or even that replacements on other platforms need to exist so that if people go looking - it exists for them to join.

    Communities are rarely self-building, but having a readily accessible and intuitive subreddit/magazine name for your topic certainly helps - you need to have enough traffic and enough activity that there's something happening when a newbie stumbles across your space. Getting the on-point keyword really makes a huge difference in that.

    PabloDiscobar,
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    It makes me not want to post in those subs. It's as if I was working for someone else. If you have no interest in a subject to the point that you have nothing to say about it then don't take the admin position in the first place.

    There are more than 500 people registered to /m/interestingasfuck, with zero post, nothing, absolutely nothing posted there. So don't say that this kind of behavior is for facilitating the experience. It is to gather virtual points of fame. They create it because they think it's gonna get big, not out of interest or to facilitate anything. I don't want this kind of person to moderate the subs I like.

    sleepisajokeanyway,
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    Yeah, they probably grabbed any highly popular "subreddit" names just for some weird power grab. The good thing is when federation is working again someone who actually wants to make a good magazine for one of those can make it on another instance and any other kbin instance can subscribe to it.

    bleuy007,
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    I honestly feel like this is slightly cynical, because I think it’s much more likely that someone was coming to a new platform and looking for a specific community that they enjoyed lurking on in the past. Once they got here and saw it wasn’t created, they created it themselves in the hope that other people (or maybe even themselves in the future) would work together to populate it with content. While this is not necessarily super helpful to building the community, it does have some value because someone now can come along and find a magazine with an audience already prepared for content, instead of having to build it themselves.

    kjr,
    kjr avatar

    @Warped I think we have here a big potential issue. Magazines have been created and the moderator hasn't post yet anything. After some days it is difficult to believe that she/he is taking responsibility of them.
    The result is that everyone can post there without any moderation, and become a quite unsafe area. I think if a magazine has been opened and in a few days there is not post of the moderator, it should be deleted.

    Haunting_Tale_5150,
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    If it helps, I created /m/seafoamsadness because it was an idea I wanted to make a sub, but never got the time or motivation to. I mainly expected it to be an extremely niche/dead sub. However its an aesthetic I find fairly interesting and decided now is the time to take the plunge. I do plan to add more examples as separate posts as soon as I find them.

    nico,

    They’re gonna flip their shit when they find out that you can make the same magazine on a different instance and there’s nothing that makes their magazine “the” magazine.

    Pixelotes,
    Pixelotes avatar

    I just created /m/printandplay because there's no such community here. I won't have time to do anything with it until the weekend.

    Just have a little patience :-)

    v13,
    v13 avatar

    Exactly! I created a magazine and got one post made but I'm still trying to learn managing things. It's just growing pains for some of us.

    czech,
    czech avatar

    Ive made a couple magazines in an attempt to get back some of the discussion I liked reading on reddit. If the old moderators emerge I'd hand them over.

    bananarama,
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    Same. But then I tried to delete them and found that I can’t because they haven’t enabled magazine deletion. So TIFU I guess.

    abff08f4813c,
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    DItto.

    parrot-party,
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    It'll be fine. If the mag gets done traction, you can surely pass off responsibility for it later.

    HeartyBeast,
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    I've made one for that reason, and then went to create another - it already existed, but but was empty , so I made the Frist P0st!

    niktemadur,
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  • itskoka,

    You a writer or something?

    niktemadur,
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    Doh! I deleted the comment you're responding to, I ended up triple-posting the same thing. I'm experiencing some lag.

    Not a writer, not professionally anyway. I love writing. I did it all the time... on Reddit.

    niktemadur,
    niktemadur avatar

    You know how I know I panicked a little bit there?
    Started sentences using "I" a lot.

    Voyajer,
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    I feel it is partly due to many smaller communities having no presence here (clearly, with no magazine existing already) and wanting to make the transition as easy as possible for others. I myself have just created /m/multicopter as I didn't see any sort of fpv drone or other rc aircraft magazine. I'm debating whether or not to backfill it with link posts from the corresponding subreddits to try and kickstart it, or to only post some of my own content.

    Jgangsta187,

    The random magazine sidebar suggested the completely empty m/cumsluts and I suspect that some people are making magazines in the hopes of attracting certain posts or just doing it for the lols

    parrot-party,
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    A lot of it is Redditors just remaking their old subs and hoping others from the sub will find them

    hearthing_dev,

    Kbin definitely needs to have some sort of means to apply to the admins to take control of a dead 'zine that will inevitably come from the mass creation of 'zines, kinda like how r*ddit has a way for people to apply to mod dead subs. I'm sure there are a lot of prime 'zines that someone will make and forget about that a community would like to have.

    jon,
    jon avatar

    I wonder if it would be a good idea to automate this to an extent? If a moderator isn't active in a magazine for a specified amount of time, they're given a 30 day notice that they're about to lose moderator access. If they don't respond, they're removed as a moderator. If no moderator is present on the magazine, you allow applications for users to become a new moderator. That could be admin approved or opened to the community for a vote. If no one applies and the magazine is truly dead, either appoint an admin as moderator or maybe just auto delete the magazine.

    Hellsadvocate,
    Hellsadvocate avatar

    In the end kbin needs more development to allow mods to foster community and remove zero purpose mods that exist in power vacuums. How is development on the website by the way? Is the developer fairly involved?

    skulblaka,
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    Don't think Ernest has slept in like four days, actually. Haven't actually seen a post from him in a couple days but all evidence points towards him working feverishly to improve the site and software.

    resketreke,
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    Haven't actually seen a post from him in a couple days

    He did post earlier today.

    Hellsadvocate,
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    I bet. What confuses me is by all means kbin.social is a singular instance, we don't want centralization just on this server, so how would other instances access magazines that are created here? Basically, how would you have magazines synced across instances?

    skulblaka,
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    It's supposed to do that, it just doesn't right now because of Cloudflare. This is a temporary measure.

    eatmoregreenfood,
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    That's what the backbone framework for all of this, ActivityPub, does if I'm not mistaken. It allows instances and platforms that run ActivityPub to all talk to each other by default.

    caffeinePlease,
    caffeinePlease avatar

    I started /m/burgers and I have plenty of pics to share, but when my mouse stops hovering over the button to add a picture, I can't actually upload one.

    v13,
    v13 avatar

    Where were you trying to add it? In the body text or toward the bottom where there is an image button?

    caffeinePlease,
    caffeinePlease avatar

    Image button

    v13,
    v13 avatar

    And when you click upload does it seem to do nothing? That's what I was experiencing. Then I finally clicked the submit button... I forget the exact text of the button, for the article and it worked. I'm not sure if it uploaded before that as I got no confirmation.

    caffeinePlease,
    caffeinePlease avatar

    It won't even allow me to select a photo to upload as the menu disappears when my mouse moves to click the "Upload" button

    MothraCultist,
    MothraCultist avatar

    Clicking the button should keep the dialog box open for upload, weirdly hovering does seem to work for me but maybe that's a browser thing (or it's different for comments, idk)? Upload from url is not working yet if that was what you were trying.

    v13,
    v13 avatar

    On the mobile site I clicked upload but had to click the submit button for the article before anything noticeably happened. It seemed that way anyhow.

    caffeinePlease,
    caffeinePlease avatar

    Tried clicking too, no luck. I'm on Safari, could be the issue.

    MothraCultist,
    MothraCultist avatar

    Oh that's a shame, worthwhile bug spotting tho!

    gmtom,

    I tried uploading to an art subreddit and just couldnt get it to work at all, so maybe picture uploads are currently broken?

    caffeinePlease,
    caffeinePlease avatar

    I tried Edge on a Windows device and clicking left the upload box available. But who knows specifically!

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