theostermanweekend,

Religion: wrecking lives since…well, since it was invented.

Cyberwitch_7493,

Specifically, Christianity wrecks lives, I don’t think the non-white religions need to get swept under this particular bus.

Zapdrive, (edited )

a man came into their front yard while she was making TikToks outside while her uncle and sibling were inside and assaulted her. Ashley said she did not know who the man was and that no one witnessed the attack.

Really now? Getting r-ped in the front yard of your house, in broad daylight, while there’s people inside? The girl must come up with something more convincing. I think the mom just came up with the story to be able to get an abortion legally, because in most states incest and r-pe are the only exceptions to the abortion ban. That’s why some conservatives are against these exceptions, because women will lie about getting r-ped to get an abortion. Police should collect the child’s DNA. The father will show up in a database sooner or later.

Edit: yea, just keep down voting like cowards without giving a counter argument, cuz you don’t have one!

girlfreddy,
@girlfreddy@mastodon.social avatar

@Zapdrive @MicroWave

Are you assuming the front yard had no shrubs or bushes that someone could hide in?

Pfft.

Zapdrive,

Seems like you watch too many movies.

girlfreddy,
@girlfreddy@mastodon.social avatar

@Zapdrive

Seems like you ass-u-me too much and too often.

walnutwalrus,

> you deserve to die because of bad things (a) parent(s) do(es)

lingh0e,

First and foremost It’s none of your fucking business why a woman seeks an abortion.

But if you’re also suggesting that this girl did a quote unquote bad thing by being raped, you can absolutely get fucked.

nightscout,
@nightscout@lemmy.world avatar

To understand why this is happening, you have to go back in history to the end of the slave trade. When the ability to kidnap people from Africa and bring them back to enslave them was legally ended, the white enslavers realized that the only way they could keep slavery going was to force people to breed more slaves. Google that history. It is utterly abhorrent but necessary to understand where the Republican Party is coming from today.

Since the end of slavery, a certain contingent in the U.S. has never gotten over the fact that they couldn’t legally have a sub-class of citizens that they could use for free or nearly-free labor. So they kept trying to find other ways to keep people oppressed, and they expanded that oppression beyond just black people and to any of the “less desirable” groups. Think not just Black people, but also Irish, immigrants, Appalachia. They pit these groups against one another because divided people are easier to control. But the goal is the same - have large groups of people poor for generations who have no other option but to work for slave wages and keep the people at the top very, very rich.

Slavery in the U.S. was a huge economic force, one that a certain contingent (the very wealthy) never got over losing. The next best thing was to create whole groups of people who are desperate enough to work for almost nothing. That’s what we have in this country now. And it works best if those people are constantly putting out more children. That keeps them even more stuck and more desperate, and it keeps a steady supply of cheap labor coming.

It’s no coincidence that they want abortion ended but also want to ensure those same people are continually subjected to sub-standard education, that those same people are “allowed” to send their kids to work (defeating years of progress through child labor laws), that those people are also unable to access higher education, government benefits, or virtually anything that could potentially make their lives better.

aesthelete,

Slavery in the U.S. was a huge economic force, one that a certain contingent (the very wealthy) never got over losing. The next best thing was to create whole groups of people who are desperate enough to work for almost nothing. That’s what we have in this country now. And it works best if those people are constantly putting out more children. That keeps them even more stuck and more desperate, and it keeps a steady supply of cheap labor coming.

In my experience the only difference between a certain kind of right-wing “libertarian” person and a slavery apologist is just the amount of time you’ve spent arguing with them. Their arguments (pro-child marriage, anti-abortion, anti-minimum wage) end up converging at “well, in some cases it’s /more/ expensive to provide people room and board than it would be to pay them in cash”.

Snapz,

I assume the girl asked help from the republicans around here, but they couldn’t hear her ask over the sound of themselves screaming about how much they want to “protect children”.

I was reading a description of this popular novel the other day. It was set in America and was supposedly fiction…

The novel explores themes of subjugated women in a patriarchal society, loss of female agency and individuality, suppression of women’s reproductive rights, and the various means by which women resist and try to gain individuality and independence.

Metype,
@Metype@lemmy.world avatar

I just woke up and this almost made me puke. This is sick.

Nacktmull, (edited )

News from Texas USA start to sound a lot like news from catholic Poland lately. I just can´t imagine this kind of fucked up shit is what Jesus wanted though /s

TopRamenBinLaden,

This news is from Mississippi, but same difference really.

Nacktmull,

Thanks, fixed it

sturmblast,

is it worth it Republicans?

hydroptic,

This is literally what they wanted, of course it’s worth it.

They think they haven’t gone far enough yet, not that the price to pay is too high. Not like they’re paying the price themselves, and they’re incapable of feeling empathy for people like this girl who are affected by their psychopathic legislation. If they themselves or anyone in their immediate family needs an abortion, they’ll go get one somewhere else because they’re good people and they have a good reason for it, unlike all those woke socialist Nazi sluts

cyborganism,

As if she was their problem.

They only want control over her. The rest ain’t their problem.

p1mrx,

I see clinics in Carbondale, about 5 hours South of Chicago. I wonder why that wasn’t an option?

RaoulDook,

Probably no driver’s license or car, no money, no help, etc.

Elivey,

“was looking to get an abortion for her daughter but was told the closest abortion provider was in Chicago – a drive of more than nine hours from their home in Clarksdale, Mississippi.”

They could have been lied to, these people are disgusting. When taken to be seen for her strange behavior before they knew she was pregnant, in response to getting back the positive pregnancy test the nurse asked the girl “What have you been doing?”. There are plenty of people in healthcare that don’t care about these victims either or see them as victims at all.

Those clinics you see might not give abortions anymore too.

p1mrx, (edited )

Given the geography of the situation, it would be useful to ensure that (1) the southern IL clinics remain open and (2) this information is widely known in the the southern states.

The Guardian seems to be spreading misinformation by claiming that Chicago is the closest location without further research.

Edit: here’s a map to clarify:

https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/30b4e43e-401a-4140-8995-e335d28ac6a0.webp

DuncanTDP,
@DuncanTDP@sh.itjust.works avatar

This is just completely disgusting. When everyone failed her the law wasn’t even on her side. Say what you want about abortions in general, but the audacity that people have to make getting abortions under rape or complications political is just disgusting. My heart truly goes out to this little girl, and her family, but especially the little girl. I can’t imagine the amount of life altering trauma she has gone through, and how this is going to affect her for the rest of her life. This shouldn’t happen to anyone. What the fuck is wrong with people.

Colorcodedresistor,

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  • afraid_of_zombies,

    Like when noted Christian Leader Jeff Sessions, who is a grandfather, defended putting kids in cages by quoting the Bible.

    DuncanTDP,
    @DuncanTDP@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Exactly

    NathanielThomas,

    It’s hard to criticize the Taliban when we have woman hating religious fundies here

    GiddyGap, (edited )

    Ironically/sadly, many of these fundies are women.

    JustZ,

    And they are as well educated as women in remote villages in Afghanistan.

    blueskiesoc,
    @blueskiesoc@lemmy.world avatar

    Por que no los dos?

    CoderKat,

    What’s the difference again? I forget, which ones are the ones that want women to cover up, will claim your clothes are the reason you got raped, and want to kill all trans people?

    sin_free_for_00_days,
    Saneless,

    I will fight my ass off to place my children into a conservatorship or even frame them for a crime if they ever consider moving to a place like Mississippi

    Thisiswhatyoucallme,

    And the nurse’s comment on finding a 13 yr old pregnant? “What have you been doing?” For fucks sake, I hate the world.

    Kit,

    Ah yes let’s slut shame the 13 year olds instead of doing our due diligence as mandated reporters. Smh.

    Naura,

    and it’s her rapist’s child. a stranger nonetheless. These folks just lack humanity.

    Compactor9679,

    Fucking missleading as shit

    crossal,

    How so?

    Compactor9679,

    Trying to get abortion at what state if the pregnancy?

    TheMonkeyLord,

    Literally isn’t relevant

    Xella,

    Fuck that pregnancy, fuck that fetus. I’ll fuckin rip it out myself and flush it down the toilet no matter what state of pregnancy it is.

    Compactor9679,

    That is what I thought. Does not matter how well the baby is form, what matters ia that I get my life back. Fuck the baby, I want to have time for myself.

    Xella,

    Now you’re getting it.

    AquaTofana,

    Bro, you’re talking about a 13 year old being forced to give birth. Why tf would you ask “What trimester is she in?!” Versus “Holy shit how have we failed her this badly?!”

    Compactor9679,

    Besides, where is the rapist? If she was rapped that mean the rapist is in jail right? Cut his balls, castrate him.

    Xella,

    Lmao you think rapists are ever caught?

    Compactor9679,

    If they are rapist, yes. Need to prove it to call him rapist

    Compactor9679,

    I understand the “holy shit how have we failed her this badly”. My question is, at that point are you saying its okay to kill a baby other than have a 13 have a child? What did the baby do to get killed?

    Xella,

    The “baby” exists. That’s the crime. Flush it.

    Compactor9679,

    Oh wow… Its the baby fault?

    prole,

    Well thankfully, no babies are killed during abortion procedures, so you can stop worrying about that.

    Compactor9679,

    Oh wow… Really?

    prole,

    Yes…? Words have meaning, and often times (especially when we’re talking about the law) seemingly minor differences in word choice can make all the difference in the world. That’s why any legal document you see has a section at the top defining terms so there can be no question what is meant.

    Abortion doesn’t directly concern “babies.” It usually just involves a blastocyst or maybe a zygote or embryo. Literal clumps of cells that the human body often eliminates on it’s own, spontaneously and for no clear reason.

    At the very most, it involves a fetus, which is still not a baby.

    Compactor9679,

    Yea, I guess that is the main argument right? When is the baby “alive”. Some say as soon as conception happens, some say as soon as he/she can breath. I think most would agree that is somewhere in between.

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