What makes you think they preferred he/him pronouns? I’ve seen most sources state they used they/them. Did you know them personally or what are your sources?
During the vigil in Owasso, some participants used masculine pronouns when referring to Benedict, and some friends later told NBC News that Benedict used he/him pronouns primarily and also used they/them pronouns.[57][58] At the Owasso vigil, one participating friend said, “I want to start off by saying that Nex was transgender, and he used he/him pronouns” and “He was so much more than his transness.”[58]
I always say Turing was killed by the UK authorities, because he was forced to take medication to chemically castrate himself, because it was illegal to be gay. That changed his personality and drove him to suicide. But IMO it was clearly murder by the state.
When an LGBT person is driven to suicide, it is more often than not murder by the society and people surrounding that person. If in doubt, just look at the statistics, transgender people have way way higher suicide rate than any other demographic. That’s obviously not caused by normal untreated depression, it’s caused by persecution and lack of acceptance that make life a lot harder for them.
You are absolutely right. We really do need to stop treating suicide universally as cowardice or mental illness. Sometimes people kill themselves because it’s the only way out of a cruel world. We need to look at how society allows such cruelty.
This young person was killed by the students that beat them and the school administrators who enforced sexist and trasphobic policies against them. They may not have committed the fatal act, but absent their cruelty, Nex would still be alive today.
We see suicide weaponized by transphobes quite openly from groups like Kiwifarms. We shouldn’t play dumb about it, intense enough bullying should be viewed as intent to kill. In a just world, making a person miserable through harassment and assault, leading to their suicide, would land somewhere between manslaughter and murder.
Michelle Carter got convicted of manslaughter for convincing her boyfriend to kill himself. We need to expand that precident.
Not that I don’t have absolute, unshakeable, limitless faith in law enforcement and local school boards, but I genuinely hope Nex’s family gets a second autopsy outside Oklahoma. Not least because their initial symptoms seemed to have a lot in common with head injury.
No, it won’t bring Nex back. But if they did this, then establish that fact via disinterested parties. The local government and law enforcement are anything but neutral parties here.
If Nex’s family is willing, I genuinely hope they are considering getting a second opinion: in many ways, this outcome lets the bullies off the hook . . . and not just the ones in the bathroom.
I don’t need to know the details, but I would like to see this conclusion confirmed by another forensic medical examiner elsewhere, and I don’t think I’m the only one.
You have freedom of speech, don’t worry. You can walk into work today and tell your boss to go fuck himself. It’s completely legal, nobody can stop you. Your boss will definitely fire you on the spot though, and if you show back up on Monday they’ll call the police on you for trespassing. That’s also completely legal.
Just because it’s legal to say something doesn’t mean you can say whatever you want to whoever you want without consequences. If you want to routinely insult people to their faces, you are allowed to, but don’t expect to have many friends or be welcome many places. If there’s a code of conduct, and you willfully violate it, expect to get kicked out of plenty of things.
Good job taking the high road, I appreciate you taking the time to write out a serious response to him. I’m sick and tired of meeting violent, bigoted rhetoric with fair responses they will refuse to engage.
I’ve degraded to letting them hear the violence redirected back to them. It feels like they at least hear what I’m saying this way.
You clearly know a lot about being both patronising and childish considering you managed to type this shit without stopping to think how utterly idiotic it sounds.
Who’s not accepting who, here, really? Who’s dead, and who isn’t?
This part says a lot about how knowledgeable a person is on being transgender.
A person is born trans or cis, it’s not a choice.
A person can differ from their assigned gender biologically, genetically, mentally, socially, etc. But regardless of HOW they are not cis, it IS fundamentally a part of who they are. A trans woman is not a man and has never been a man. They can change how they present themselves to be more feminine or more masculine, but not their gender. That’s determined in the womb.
I can provide sources or more information, but I’m not going to type a huge, well informed comment if it falls on deaf ears. So please let me know if you want more information and I’d be happy to provide it.
In May 2011, the case was resolved, after agreements to plead guilty to lesser charges. Five of the defendants were placed on probation, with several also sentenced to community service. The charges against a male student were dropped at the request of the Prince family.
Apparently Nex started the fight by pouring water on them. Hard to believe that someone might lash out that way if there wasn’t a history of bullying though.
Is that how it started? I’m guessing Nex didn’t pour water on them unprovoked. That doesn’t sound like the sort of thing a bullied nonbinary student would do.
Speaking as someone who was severely bullied, I knew to a certainty that I would get my ass kicked no matter what I did, so fighting back had no real downsides.
Of course, it also didn’t work, any more than it did for Nex. Exactly like with Nex, ambushing did not win the fight for me, because it’s just an urban legend that all bullies are cowards who will flee if you fight back.
Nex provided a recorded audio and video statement, I’m confused on how so many people are interested in the story but won’t listen to the firsthand accounts.
“Apparently” is doing a lot of work here. This is the story the group of teens that beat Nex gave the police. There’s absolutely zero legal precident for using violence to defend yourself from having water poured on you anyway, so I don’t see how it’s relevant to decide who “started the fight”.
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