Biden calls Trump ‘unhinged’ and says ‘something snapped’ in former president after he lost 2020 election

President Joe Biden on Saturday called Donald Trump “clearly unhinged” and claimed that “something snapped” in the former president after he lost the 2020 election.

“It’s clear that … when he lost in 2020, something snapped in him,” Biden told supporters in Seattle at a private fundraiser Saturday, according to reporters in the room. “He’s not only obsessed with losing in 2020, he’s clearly unhinged. Just listen to what he’s telling people.”

Even though Biden thinks the presumptive GOP presidential nominee is “unhinged,” he said he believes the November election will be “close.”

“We feel good about the state of the race, but we know the race is close,” Biden said, pointing to recent polls.

rapechildren,

www.vidlii.com/watch?v=-HkErc-xfRK

Sam_Bass,

It was snapped before he ever got involved in politics

NoLifeGaming,

I agree, but so is biden for being a genocide supporter.

CharlesDarwin,
@CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world avatar

Biden is being very, very nice by saying Ronald McDonald was unhinged only since losing in 2020.

gapedanus,

ikwyd.com/r/jNOR

someguy3,

This is what happens when a narcissist loses.

TheJims,

He’s never been hinged

captainlezbian,

Yeah though he does seem to be crusading against hinges these days

xmunk, (edited )

Oh, definitely, but if you tell someone they previously voted for a total moron they’re not going to vote for you. If everyone knows and has always known they’re a moron but you say they just became a moron they might vote for you as you didn’t personally insult them.

Shapillon,

As a society, we should stop blaming people for being conned, falling into cults, etc.

xmunk,

As a society we really need to figure out how half our population joined a cult.

… and I reserve the right to judge them if their actions lead to people dying (i.e. anti-choice folks). I, at least, don’t permanently judge people. People can grow and become better - if they’re willing to put in the effort.

SkybreakerEngineer,

Oh, that’s simple. Plenty of people were already racist, and plenty more were willing to drink the Kool-aid

isles,

As recently as the 1990s, 90% of the USA was Christian. So, good question.

Shapillon,

As we shouldn’t judge people for their addictions ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Kolanaki,
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

Even if they’re addicted to reality TV?

Bernie_Sandals,
@Bernie_Sandals@lemmy.world avatar

Especially if their addiction is Reality TV, that shit is sneaky and dangerous.

Like Jersey Shore sounds awful, but wait till Reality TV finds your favorite hobby or a special interest of yours to make a show about, then you’d understand.

homesweethomeMrL,

To those of you who say he was always like this - Yes and No IMO. Look at his interviews from - even from the early 2000’s he’s “relatively” normal. At least in terms of how he’s processing things.

He’s a fraud, obvs. He’s corrupt, narcissistic, stupid, vain, arrogant, etc. Yes. No doubt. A true turd. No argument there. But: he’s not the babbling cretin he is now.

He was babbling in 2016, yes. He was clearly already having problems - so many people talking about how he just says the same thing over and over for hours. Well, that ain’t right. So much effort into trying to show he’s “normal” when he’s clearly losing it.

And then he got the covids. And decided he was going to stage a coup. And the rest of his “relatively normal” brain said, aiight imma head out.

Now he’s just pathetic and horrifying. He was always awful, always a total fool, but not always so neurotic and random.

captainlezbian,

Yeah look at him in the birther conspiracy years and you can see the progression of a man slowly succumbing to mental illness. He was always a two faced dipshit, but he was a sane con man once.

What we see today is a very mentally ill fascist. Either alone presents an incomplete picture of him. Dementia, power, and the frustration of a con man facing pushback.

Quetzalcutlass, (edited )

I think the birther nonsense is more key to his current state than people realize. I think that, rather than just being a con man playing rubes for fools, he genuinely fell down the right-wing conspiracy rabbit hole like so many others and his world view ceased even remotely resembling reality. He fits the typical conspiracy victim archetype: dumb or poorly educated (his professor called him the worst student he ever had) but thinks he’s smart, and desperate for validation and respect due to his father’s abusive upbringing. Surrounding himself with people who’d call him a genius and truth-teller for whatever random nonsense he spouted broke his filter on reality and he dove right in and soaked up their approval.

In other words, he’s every moron you see on Facebook, just with a louder voice and more reach. And being nothing special is the worst fate imaginable to a narcissist like him.

Edit: it also makes him far more dangerous, unfortunately. A con man will back down when their con starts unravelling, but if he genuinely believes the shit he’s spewing, he’ll keep pushing far past the point where he hurts himself and everyone around him. Which is what we’ve been seeing.

Buddahriffic,

One thing that makes me doubt he’s a true believer is the difference in how he treated covid publically vs behind closed doors. He knew it was a bigger deal than he was trying to downplay it as and was privately terrified of it.

Though who knows if that has since changed as his dementia has gotten worse.

knobbysideup,
@knobbysideup@sh.itjust.works avatar

It was long before 2020 Joe.

Sterile_Technique,
@Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world avatar

We need to stop giving Trump (and the other neonazis that have surfaced in his wake) the village-idiot or bat-shit-crazy pass and treat him as though his actions are lucid and calculated. We can assess the state of his brain during autopsy. Until then, he’s a traitor and domestic threat to the United States, and we should treat that threat as seriously as its consequences merit.

Boddhisatva,

He’s “unhinged” but the “race is close.” That should really tell you something Joe. You need to get out there and self-promote. You are up against a game show host, carnival barker who’s one real skill is the ability to get people to pay attention to him. Tell people how the economy is really doing. Tell them what the crime rate really is. Push legislation that will directly help the workers in this country and then brag when you sign it. Make it clear what we will really get if we give this orange clown another term in the Oval Office. Make noise and campaign in every single state.

homesweethomeMrL,

No. It’s close because the corporate news sewerholes refuse to call Trump a demented rapist WHICH HE IS.

He’s also a convicted fraud who still lies to this very day about the 2020 election, which indicates severe cognitive decline.

Either is good.

But it’s not Joe’s problem to fix. That’s the utter, abysmal failure of corporate news media run by republiQan masters. They refuse to do the right thing and it’s up to us to make them do it through doing it for them enough they can pretend they thought of it.

Your sweet republican family and friends need to be told this is serious and not normal. Their media bubble isn’t going to.

Boddhisatva,

It shouldn’t be his problem to fix, but if he doesn’t fix it, who will?

Eatspancakes84,

That’s exactly what he’s doing in OPs article…

dirthawker0,

The media has traded objectivity for eyeballs. Ever since that orange clown started running the first time it’s been a nonstop attention grabber and that’s all the media wants now. Good or bad attention doesn’t matter, it’s just attention, and Trump draws it out massively. Media doesn’t want it to stop.

crusa187,

I hear you on journalism being completely dead in mainstream media. But, I’m pretty sure the likes of MSNBC and CNN are wholly up Biden’s ass. You’re right about right wing media bubbles though, it requires human interaction to pierce through to them.

That said, Biden needs to take responsibility for his own abysmal actions. Continued support for genocide of Palestinians, shutting down democracy by avoiding a primary election earlier this year, and drilling for oil at historic record rates. Do you honestly believe this is appealing at all to left wing voters which Biden desperately needs to show up at the ballot box?

Railing5132,

Look, I get it. I want all aid to Israel cut off forever, and we should be supporting the removal of Bobo Bibi and sharing evidence at the Hague. But the point is, with all this shit going on domestically, and the fascist, wholly undemocratic abandonment-of-founding-principles shit Cheeto Mussolini has been spouting, if the media (and social media) wasn’t so driven to keep us on a knife’s edge, this election should be polling at a blowout. I’m talking on the order of Mondale-Reagan blowout. We’re sliding into Christian fascism, half the voting country is OK with it, and the furthest left contingent can’t see the forest for the trees.

crusa187,

Agreed on cutting Israel aid completely. What’s happening there is disgusting - 10s of billions of US taxpayer dollars spent on slaughtering innocent children in Gaza. Meanwhile, basic healthcare at home is virtually unaffordable for most Americans. Do you know that Israel has free nationalized healthcare for its citizens? Why don’t we have that?

I’ll have to disagree that half the voting country is ok with nationalist Christian ideology. The majority of Americans are actually quite progressive, and this has been proven time and again via polling. The problem is we have no representation - Biden does next to nothing to appeal to the left, instead choosing to always move further right in order to compromise with his Republican friends in Congress, resulting in abysmally low voter turnout. This shouldn’t surprise you, because we have a system of legalized bribery in the US where corporations buy politicians to ensure precisely those results.

Biden’s rhetoric is superior to Trump’s, but his actions leave so much to be desired. In fact, I think you will find that both Biden and Trump both act to protect the interests of American business above all else. This Hobson’s choice is what got us into this mess, and pretending that Biden’s abhorrent record is even remotely acceptable is not going to get us out of it.

homesweethomeMrL,

w/r/t Biden doing for Palestine as a key progressive effort; I think as the NYT article that got posted here a day or to ago spelled out, Biden’s been very much in Bibi’s face behind closed doors, but our favorite college student doesn’t know or care how mideast diplomacy works, or its history, risks, and assumptions.

Frankly, that’s on us for assuming and posting that he “supports genocide”. He does not, and has said so repeatedly. Maybe if Bush(s) had invaded Israel instead of Iraq (y’know, where we know very well they have WMD) and had taken control of that government we’d be able to dictate what we want the way so many seem to think we can, but it doesn’t work so simply. He’s working on it, much more diligently and competently than anyone else who’s running for president is able to.

And frankly at this point, spreading this lie that Biden “supports” the obvious genocidal actions of Netanyahu is exactly the same as what a russian troll trying to divide Democrats, limit turnout, and swing the election to trump would do.

crusa187,

Ok, if Biden doesn’t support genocide, how come he has circumvented Congress over 100 times since oct 7 to send them 10s of billions worth of bombs which are actively being used to perform said genocide?

I believe that Biden has asked Bibi to stop. Do you know what Bibi does immediately after those conversations? He goes on Israeli press and absolutely dunks on Biden for being an idiot, in Bibi’s pocket, and that the killings will continue.

If Biden truly does not support genocide, wouldn’t the second most logical step be to stop sending them the very 2000lb bombs which are being used to level all civilian infrastructure in the strip? Why hasn’t he done this?

InternetUser2012,

So you think people that are upset with Biden’s actions with Israel are going to vote for tRump??? tRump will make damn sure it’s a genocide, he’s even said it. At this point, if you vote for tRump, you’re a traitor, a piece of shit, and terrible human. There is no defense, there is no justification.

crusa187,

No, are you brain broken? Nobody on the left is going to vote Trump.

I’m asking why doesn’t Biden address the glaring problems with his administration concerning his voters’ interests?

I’m also curious how Blue MAGA has been so effectively programmed to respond to any criticism of Biden by attacking the voters themselves, instead of demanding accountability from the government leaders. Do you watch much cable news?

InternetUser2012,

I was going to respond, but now I see you’re just a troll, the .ml gives you away.

eran_morad,

Fkn lol. I grew up in nyc in the 80s. Something snapped in this cunt way back when. He’s always been a fucking clown. New Yorkers cannot comprehend how this traitor shitcunt managed to amass his flock of sheep, our acknowledgment of their profound fucktardedness notwithstanding.

DeepThought42,

I’m not from NY, but I too was paying attention back in the day and can confirm, the Orange Turd has always been a deranged, self-absorbed, shit stain of a human being.

Bonesince1997,

I don’t know how big an impact celebrity is, but if you watch almost any media from the 80s or 90s you’ll eventually come across a DT reference, either the man himself or something about him, and it’s usually fawning. Like I said, I don’t know how much a thing like that is representative of how people actually thought/think about him, but it feels like it helped.

DeepThought42,

The media did indeed hype him up for many years, but at least some of us saw past that and realized that he wasn’t all he was cracked up to be.

4am,

Yeah outside of NYC the media slobbed his knob constantly. The motherfucker makes a cameo in Home Alone 2 like it’s some incredible once-in-a-lifetime experience to run into him. But if you search for articles, there’s negative stuff about him - just most people write that off as like “activist journalism” or whatever

It’s America, everyone worships the rich people

Daft_ish,

Of course, when I’m rich everyone should worship me ti because I do all the rich people stuff.

Soon enough I’ll work my way up to CEO and catch my big break. Then all those people in high-school that I never interacted with will be like oh no I shouldn’t have not cared or something.

BestBouclettes,

He allows them to be their full shitty selves out publicly with no shame.

distantsounds,

Thank the DNC and Hillary Clinton for trump’s rise to power.

InternetUser2012,

She won the popular vote. I’ll go ahead and put the blame on idiots, Russia, and fox “news”.

distantsounds,

You can believe whatever you want, that doesn’t make it true.

politico.com/…/hillary-clinton-2016-donald-trump-…

disguy_ovahea,

Yup. He’s notorious for stiffing contractors and vendors since the ‘80s. He had to outsource most of his contracts in the last few decades because nobody will work for him in NYC.

He’s been sued for contract disputes 208 times.

www.azcentral.com/pages/…/trump-lawsuits/

InternetUser2012,

He’s been sued 208 times… How many more people did he screw that didn’t sue him? It has to be a staggering number.

disguy_ovahea,

Oh, I’m sure. In the above link you’ll see he’s actually been sued 4,095 times. 208 of those were contract dispute lawsuits.

InternetUser2012,

omg, that’s funny and incredibly sad.

ChowJeeBai,

Call him ‘Don Snoreleone’ or something to really get under his skin.

MegaUltraChicken,

It’s really effective. He cannot handle being laughed at. It throws him off message and makes it crystal clear how weak he is. I hope the Biden campaign is able to utilize that effectively.

mister_flibble,

Having had an unfortunate amount of personal experience with a diagnosed narcissist, can confirm that that is a highly effective strategy. You can’t ‘logic’ someone who’s operating in a completely different reality and justified outrage just results in them playing the victim. Laughing at them makes them completely fucking short circuit. Hell, look at how disproportionate Trump’s response was to SNL satirizing him.

gravitas_deficiency,

Sleepy Don Poorleone

Gotta get that one-two combo

Badeendje,
@Badeendje@lemmy.world avatar

If he calls him crooked joe in a debate, just counter that he is projecting.

InternetUser2012,

Broke bitch Sleepy Dementia Don

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