@airwhale pretty much. HP has got through the most staggering decline in reputation I have ever seen in this industry. There are plenty of companies that have maintained some level of respectability even though they are generally garbage (MSFT, Google, and most of Wall St. comes to mind) by periodically trying to not be imbeciles. HP of the other hand, came from laudable bona fides, that has done everything in its power, to projectile defecate furiously all over them.