urlyman, 
Trudi Warner (https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2024/apr/23/trudi-warner-climate-activist-fight-with-the-uk-government) interviewed by Simon Jack on #r4today.
Trudi: “Climate breakdown is something we don’t want to talk about”
Simon: “Thank you, Trudi, I’m afraid that’s all we have time for”
Climate: “Ready to talk yet?”
https://toot.community/@extretemps/112418721980050581
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