Dyskolos,

For fighting pedos (or abusers in general) it would be way more helpful to fight it at the root, not the leafs.

But it’s just a marketing-phrase to kill privacy, not fight abuse…

postmateDumbass,

So eliminate children?

Very Huxlarian.

thepianistfroggollum,

What did you think was meant by ‘think of the children’?

postmateDumbass,

Think but don’t touch butt.

DarkenLM,

Why, hello there Anakin.

havokdj,

yOu UnDeREsTiMaTe My PoWeR

mojo,

It’s always “think of the children!” as the go to fascist propaganda

DigitalFrank,

You want to fight pedophilia, cut of the trafficking network at the head.

Release the Epstein client list.

They won’t, this is how you know it’s not about pedophilia, it’s about further invasion of privacy and more monitoring of the peasants.

TheDarksteel94,

I think they’re just trying to pick the battles they can potentially win

Duamerthrax,

I think they’re just trying to get reelected by eliciting primal emotions.

They could go after the Epstein people, but that would upset the (terrible)status quo.

catalog3115,

To put pressure on the countries and persuade them to vote ‘yes’, the European Commission placed these ads only in countries that did not want to vote for the law: Sweden, Belgium, Finland, Slovenia, Portugal, the Czech Republic and the Netherlands AdsAds Pic

Oha,
@Oha@lemmy.ohaa.xyz avatar

In case someone wants to mail the EU: stopchatcontrol.eu

eya,
@eya@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

classic “protecting the children” to do something terrible excuse

atrielienz,

Does anybody but me remember top sites? Back in the day bootleggers would distribute and share ripped movies and albums on top sites for bootleggers to download and copy to disc or tape. Like. They didn’t use regular chats except to vet new people. They literally had their own chat networks. The same applies here. Like. Why do they think this will do anything much to make a dent in CP? We all know it won’t and it’s a poorly concealed attempt at destroying privacy laws.

twisted28,

Billionaires know the 99% are going to rise up eventually, this is their solution to squash dissent.

JewGoblin,

lol the same politicians let grooming gangs get away with exploiting young girls, they could care less about Pedos and care more about the power they yield, in other words they’re full of shit

deczzz,
@deczzz@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

And it will probably happen. No one in power gives a fuck about logic and reason. It’s all about sending a signal. People don’t care about privacy but they don’t like pedos!

11 years ago, I attended a talk by Gottfrid Svartholm in Berlin. He told us that we have lost the internet. Pretty good foresight eh?

thepianistfroggollum,

Lol, Apple has concerns about privacy. They’re already scanning your photographs for CP.

Rai,

I thought they nix’d that idea.

thepianistfroggollum,

They did, I didn’t see the update because /r/technology became a Musk news fees.

Rai,

Totally fair hahaha.

I gotta hand it to Apple for being one of the very few mega corpos that even try to advocate for privacy. Their idea of “scan your photos” was fucked, but at least they backpedaled. I’d like to hope it was a checksum scan and not, like, an AI scan that had human reviewers—that would be incredibly creepy to me.

Well, I don’t store any photos on iCloud anyway cuz I don’t need the fucked up shit I do with my partner on the interwebs, but still. Not a good look, glad they went back on it.

soren446,

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  • thepianistfroggollum,

    Maybe don’t be a dick because someone didn’t know there was updated information.

    Treczoks,

    Pedophiles would be terminally stupid if they used common, commercial chat systems and social media. Those who survive have probably their own forums completely disconnected from commercial prying eyes.

    So in the end they would only catch a handful of very stupid amateurs while trampling on the rights to privacy and confidentiality of all citizens.

    thepianistfroggollum,

    Yeah, the stupid ones get caught pretty easily. A professor at our local university was caught storing CP on a university network share.

    uis, (edited )
    @uis@lemmy.world avatar

    How the fuck did they even become a professor? I mean even school student in 8th grade would not be so stupid to put regular porn on their school or home network share.

    Cavemanfreak,

    Why wouldn’t they be able to? It’s not like they walk around with brands on their foreheads that proclaim what they are, and most of them are regular people in the other aspects of their lives.

    uis,
    @uis@lemmy.world avatar

    I mean even school student in 8th grade would not be so stupid to put regular porn on their school or home network share. If they are more stupid at this than an 8th-grade, how bad they are at teaching?

    tony,

    We had a guy at an old job who kept changing the permissions on his data to remove administrator access because he thought that would work. He wasn’t an idiot generally, he just didn’t understand how computers worked.

    thepianistfroggollum,

    You’re highly overestimating the intelligence requirements to become a professor.

    Also, being well informed on a specific topic doesn’t mean you’re smart. My HS valedictorian is the dumbest person I’ve ever met. But, she was able to regurgitate information on tests without actually understanding any of it.

    synceDD,
    @synceDD@lemmy.world avatar

    By being good at studying? I hope this was sarcastic bro 😬

    uis,
    @uis@lemmy.world avatar

    I mean even school student in 8th grade would not be so stupid to put regular porn on their school or home network share. If this person more stupid at this, how stupid they are at teaching?

    Petter1,

    What are they gonna do about my Matrix server 🤔

    smileyhead,

    Matrix server could become illegal in such laws.

    Petter1,

    I guess I would still use it and still wunder what they really gonna do about it and how they would find it behind VPN.

    ryannathans,

    Vpn illegal too :)

    Petter1,

    I guess, I would still use it anyway…

    killeronthecorner,
    @killeronthecorner@lemmy.world avatar

    Like piracy? Shit, sounds kinda scary in a who gives a fuck sort of way…

    magnetosphere,
    magnetosphere avatar

    So, a better title might be “Fighting privacy under the guise of fighting pedophelia: The EU rule that could break the internet”

    gravitas_deficiency,

    The vast majority of politicians apparently refuse to understand - despite it being explained ad nauseum in a multitude of ways - that truly robust encryption with no “master key” or “back door” that the “good guys” can use is completely integral to and absolutely required for the modern internet to work at all.

    clearedtoland,

    The unfortunate brilliance of it is that there are master strategists and tacticians that understand how to pass thinly-veiled invasive legislation under some undeniably noble premise.

    NYC started with speed cameras and red light cameras only near schools to “protect children.” Who wouldn’t support that? Every single government employee knew this was a long term play: capture metrics showing how much these roadways have improved - then use that to support expansion of the system elsewhere. The same with NYPD cameras and surveillance stations.

    Start with something small and digestible to the public, then use it to substantiate the unpalatable.

    PlexSheep,

    Red light and speed cams everywhere just makes sense for traffic.

    fubo,

    It really depends on who’s in charge of them. In many US cities, they were operated corruptly by agencies who dialed-down the yellow-light time to increase fines and raise revenue.

    PlexSheep,

    Okay that sucks. Still, traffic controls help make traffic more safe, and more stable.

    And If more people are fined for breaking traffic laws, maybe they will learn it some time or just stop driving so much.

    troyunrau,
    @troyunrau@lemmy.ca avatar

    capture metrics showing how much these roadways have improved - then use that to support expansion of the system elsewhere

    As traffic is usually the most dangerous thing any of us interact with on a regular basis, I propose that this result is actually a good thing.

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